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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    What?

    Go back and look at the history of realignment for G5 schools.

    Perception kept us out of the original CUSA group. The comment to Doc A was, "I just can't sell SW LA to our season ticket holders".

    We told the WAC no.

    Realignment was happening above our level all this time between P5 leagues that killed the Big East and created the MWC and later the AAC. All of that was based on MONEY with a focus on budget.

    Then CUSA reloaded and expanded. All of that was based on MONEY with a focus on TV numbers.

    Show me where realignment was based on number of wins.
    Show me poorly performing in conference programs who had high or medium profile P5 wins that have progressed up the ladder. And you can't use La Tech as an example, because remember they were the only appealing rat left on the WAC sinking ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    Maximizing your P5 games isn't defined by playing just any P5 program, you don't garner much in defeating Kansas, Rutgers, Indiana or Iowa St. And playing three road games a year at P5's is whoring your program out because any P5 program will pay you to come to their home stadium anytime. You earn national respect by defeating ranked teams and top G5 program.
    And dominating the world around you. If you can't do that...defeating ranked teams an top G5 means nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    Maximizing your P5 games isn't defined by playing just any P5 program, you don't garner much in defeating Kansas, Rutgers, Indiana or Iowa St. And playing three road games a year at P5's is whoring your program out because any P5 program will pay you to come to their home stadium anytime.
    I never said play 3 road games every year for the most money. That is what poor schools do. We can be smart about it. First, I said we should always try to get games with Rice, Houston, SMU, Tech, Tulane and USM for recruiting purposes. You conveniently ignore that. When that is not possible, that game should be a P5, not Kent State.

    Secondly, We should only play 1 straight up, one off, money game per year. The other 2 P5 games should be some combination of 1 for 1, 2 for 1, or the Home and Dome series. That is not whoring your program. That is smart scheduling. Every 3 or 4 years we'll be hosting a P5 at Cajun Field or the Superdome. You conveniently ignore that.



    You earn national respect by defeating ranked teams and top G5 program.
    Top G5? If they are ranked, then yes, you are correct. I would alter your statement to say you earn national respect by defeating ranked teams and top, unranked P5 programs AND almost beating ranked teams. Look at how much play App has gotten from the Tennessee game and Troy has gotten from the Clemson game.

    You already said you are OK with 2 P5's and a G5. All I am saying is when we can't schedule a G5 from the preferred group, we schedule a P5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    Show me poorly performing in conference programs who had high or medium profile P5 wins that have progressed up the ladder. And you can't use La Tech as an example, because remember they were the only appealing rat left on the WAC sinking ship.
    We were also available at that time, so what was it that made La Tech more appealing than UL to CUSA? Was it La Tech's wins over high profile P5 teams, or the fact they were members of that sinking ship of the WAC?

    I contend it was their WAC membership that got Tech into CUSA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oiler View Post
    We were also available at that time. So what was it that made La Tech more appealing than UL? Was it their wins over high profile P5 teams? OR was it the fact they were members of that sinking ship of the WAC?
    They tried...they did everything they could...we mailed a PowerPoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    They tried...they did everything they could...we mailed a PowerPoint.
    Did we even do that??

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    Quote Originally Posted by CameronCajun View Post
    Did we even do that??
    Yes but to the wrong address I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    I never said play 3 road games every year for the most money. That is what poor schools do. We can be smart about it. First, I said we should always try to get games with Rice, Houston, SMU, Tech, Tulane and USM for recruiting purposes. You conveniently ignore that. When that is not possible, that game should be a P5, not Kent State.

    Secondly, We should only play 1 straight up, one off, money game per year. The other 2 P5 games should be some combination of 1 for 1, 2 for 1, or the Home and Dome series. That is not whoring your program. That is smart scheduling. Every 3 or 4 years we'll be hosting a P5 at Cajun Field or the Superdome. You conveniently ignore that.





    Top G5? If they are ranked, then yes, you are correct. I would alter your statement to say you earn national respect by defeating ranked teams and top, unranked P5 programs AND almost beating ranked teams. Look at how much play App has gotten from the Tennessee game and Troy has gotten from the Clemson game.

    You already said you are OK with 2 P5's and a G5. All I am saying is when we can't schedule a G5 from the preferred group, we schedule a P5.
    App has gotten play from it's game against Tennessee because they have continued to win. Had they lost a few more games afterwards, no one would be talking about it at all. As for defeating a top G5 program with a winning record even if not ranked, plays better for your progran than beating a 2-5 Indiana. In the end, you must do something with your season afterwards. App State has defeated its last 3 SBC opponents by an average of 24 points per game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    App has gotten play from it's game against Tennessee because they have continued to win. Had they lost a few more games afterwards, no one would be talking about it at all. As for defeating a top G5 program with a winning record even if not ranked, plays better for your progran than beating a 2-5 Indiana. In the end, you must do something with your season afterwards. App State has defeated its last 3 SBC opponents by an average of 24 points per game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    App has gotten play from it's game against Tennessee because they have continued to win. Had they lost a few more games afterwards, no one would be talking about it at all. As for defeating a top G5 program with a winning record even if not ranked, plays better for your progran than beating a 2-5 Indiana. In the end, you must do something with your season afterwards. App State has defeated its last 3 SBC opponents by an average of 24 points per game.
    I submit to you that had neither Troy nor App nearly pulled the upset they would not be getting near the votes for the Top-25 they are getting right now.

    Again, my bottom line is when we can't schedule from the group of preferred G5's, we should schedule a P5.

    All four of our NOLA Bowls would still have happened if we had 3 P5's instead of 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hark Mudspeth View Post
    Yes but to the wrong address I believe.
    here is a photo of one of the 50 floppy disk we sent!


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    I submit to you that had neither Troy nor App nearly pulled the upset they would not be getting near the votes for the Top-25 they are getting right now.

    Again, my bottom line is when we can't schedule from the group of preferred G5's, we should schedule a P5.

    All four of our NOLA Bowls would still have happened if we had 3 P5's instead of 2.
    Quick question, why is App State not being punished for getting blasted at home by a P5, since all of us G5's are only measured by what we do against the P5? Wouldn't that sword cut both ways?

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