Follow-up to emergency notification

[Bigbuf]

How do you buy without a permit?

In Louisiana, you ARE NOT required to have a permit to buy a gun. You are required to pass the federal background check.

If a citizen wants to carry a gun openly, they may do so. However, they are required, to allow a police officer to disarm them and they are required to submit to questioning. ALL gun free zones apply to open carry.

If anyone thinks that a person who may be carrying openly will not be stop and questioned is in need of a serious reality check.

The concealed carry permit allows a person, after taking a gun safety course, applying through a lengthy process and pass a more stringent background check than just to buy a gun, to carry a gun that is concealed. The person is still bound to all no gun zones and must allow a police officer to disarm them and submit themselves for questioning.

Exercising a person's constitutional, whether it is free speech or a right to bear arms, comes with immense responsibility and should never be taken lightly.

[Bigbuf]

Good to know. Thanks. Didn't know that. The important thing is that before we decide to do either we should check regs for the states and counties we might carry in. And check for reciprocity between states if you travel across state lines.

BTW honorably discharged veterans can obtain a conceal carry permit in the state of Louisiana at no cost as long as the meet all of the criteria in the application process.

Also, a person should NEVER trust sources on the internet without verifying them. Call the LSP and discuss your concerns with them, I am sure they will be glad to help you.

http://www.lsp.org/handguns.html

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/louisiana.pdf

[31Ragin97]

In Louisiana, you ARE NOT required to have a permit to buy a gun. You are required to pass the federal background check.

If a citizen wants to carry a gun openly, they may do so. However, they are required, to allow a police officer to disarm them and they are required to submit to questioning. ALL gun free zones apply to open carry.

If anyone thinks that a person who may be carrying openly will not be stop and questioned is in need of a serious reality check.

The concealed carry permit allows a person, after taking a gun safety course, applying through a lengthy process and pass a more stringent background check than just to buy a gun, to carry a gun that is concealed. The person is still bound to all no gun zones and must allow a police officer to disarm them and submit themselves for questioning.

Exercising a person's constitutional, whether it is free speech or a right to bear arms, comes with immense responsibility and should never be taken lightly.

so if you buy without a permit, wouldn't you be illegally "open" carrying it from the store to your house that first time?

[waterboy]

so if you buy without a permit, wouldn't you be illegally "open" carrying it from the store to your house that first time?

There is no requirement in Louisiana to have a permit to buy a firearm.

[Bigbuf]

A person may carry a gun openly in Louisiana as long as the person is not in a place that the law prohibits them from carrying.

For example; I can open carry or concealed carry (if permitted) in the mall, but I can do neither in a bar.

The law in Louisiana is prescriptive, in other words, the open carry law and concealed carry law will tell you exactly where you may NOT carry. All other places, since not explicitly stated, are legal to carry.

Louisiana R.S. 40:1379.3 is the law you need to read.

[31Ragin97]

so why let's say, will a young person carrying a gun in the parking lot of a gun store, more likely be told to "freeze" and drop the gun, then say you carrying it any of these other legal places like for example the parking lot of a football game at a stadium not on a campus?

[31Ragin97]

excerpt from the case of Alton Sterling:
One officer exclaimed, "He's got a gun! Gun!" One of the officers yelled, "If you ____ing move, I swear to God!"
so....
why wasn't next comment: "but it's ok, because in Louisiana a permit is not required to open-carry, and we are not currently in a gun free zone"

and don't say it is because of his prior record, since : "The arresting officers were not aware of Alton Sterling's record at the time of the shooting."

[Frenchie35]

I hear so much about second amendment, why didnt they just assume he had the proper permit

Yea right. A possible hand gun in his waistband. That might cause some suspicion I would think.

[31Ragin97]

Yea right. A possible hand gun in his waistband. That might cause some suspicion I would think.

based on the posts outlining the law, I really don't see why it would be suspicious, this is all quite confusing honestly.....

[billbeck451]

The next step is enhanced carry that allows for a wider area that you can carry

[31Ragin97]

A person may carry a gun openly in Louisiana as long as the person is not in a place that the law prohibits them from carrying.

For example; I can open carry or concealed carry (if permitted) in the mall, but I can do neither in a bar.

The law in Louisiana is prescriptive, in other words, the open carry law and concealed carry law will tell you exactly where you may NOT carry. All other places, since not explicitly stated, are legal to carry.

Louisiana R.S. 40:1379.3 is the law you need to read.

and with conceal carry, if officer asks to see your permit, how do you "reach" for your permit, without a similar motion than reaching for the concealed gun?

[barchief]

and with conceal carry, if officer asks to see your permit, how do you "reach" for your permit, without a similar motion than reaching for the concealed gun?

The officers were called to the scene because an anonymous caller reported that a man believed to be Sterling was threatening him and waving or brandishing a handgun while in the process of selling CDs. So once they arrived, they had probable cause to arrest him.. once he started resisting, things went out of control.

This is not in dispute.. they have the 911 tapes to verify this.

And to answer your question.. you have the officer disarm you first, then either allow them to retrieve your wallet or ask them if you may get it. This is taught in the concealed carry class... you do everything you can to put the officer at ease.