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    I know I shouldn't feet this troll but even the least watched bowl game outdrew the FcS championship.

    And its been that way for a while now.


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    Zeebart21's Avatar Zeebart21 is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by cypremort View Post
    Look at the teams on their schedule....Incarnate Word, Abilene Christian, Prairie View, Arkansas Tech. Seriously, these may be fine schools but I had no idea that they even had football teams. Hard to get 8K to attend games with that kind of schedule. Sounds like a D-III lineup.
    Whats bad is I have some friends that are huge fans of McNeese as well as being pretty nice guys... it just takes one bitter, pathetic moron to ruin it.

    Z

  3. #207

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnStOnge View Post
    Yes I remember that on the McNeese board and responded to it. There is an element of the McNeese fan base that wants to see McNeese go FBS. I completely disagree with that. There is this perception that going FBS improves a school's financial situation and it's just not true. The basic picture is that if you're not in (now) the "Big 5" conferences in FBS schools in FBS generally lose more money on their athletic programs than schools in FCS do. An example is provided by the 2013 numbers from the college athletic programs database at http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...ools/finances/ for your school and for McNeese. Note that "school funds" are counted as "revenue" to the athletic programs. But that's money the school is kicking in to sustain the athletic programs. It's not revenue for the school.

    Once you delete that school subsidy from the revenues you see that your school's revenues from its athletic program fell short of expenses by $8.2 million while McNeese's revenues fell short of expenses by $4.4 million. And that was during a very good year for your school's athletic program.

    Beyond that I want McNeese to compete at the highest level at which it can compete to be among the best. That's not FBS for McNeese and it's not FBS for your school either. Same with Louisiana Tech and ULM.

    Bowl games? I don't know what the heck that means. More than half the teams in FBS go to bowl games. Going to a bowl game does not mean a team is "good" in the context of FBS. I'm not saying this just to aggravate you either. I'm saying the same thing I say on the McNeese board when people bring up wanting McNeese to go FBS with the post season hope being going to something like the New Orleans Bowl. Using the Sagarin ratings because they're easily accessible and give at least some idea: The 2011 New Orleans Bowl matched the team that finished 65th in FBS and the team that finished 77th. The 2012 New Orleans Bowl matched number 61 and number 80. The 2013 New Orleans Bowl matched 77 and 84.

    I understand that a lot of people like that. But I don't. I'm in the minority for sure. But seeing the team I'm pulling for shoot for getting into games like that in the post season is not what I want.
    And there is my ____ing problem with you and all your Brokeback buddies, Johnstonge. I've no problem with you deciding what is best for your school, but from the inception of the D1A /D1aa split you _____ have been trying to dictate what you think is best for our school. Frankly, I don't give a rat's ___ what you think is best for our school. Our fan base has decided playing at the highest level period, D1A, is where we want to be. And we have steadfastly supported that effort despite obstacles your administration tried to throw our way as well as the self inflicted obstacles of our previous administration. And now we are reaping the benefits of that perseverance.

    So save your self-serving logic for your own fanbase and spare us your lectures, we've been hearing this same old song from you for decades. We didn't buy it then and we sure aren't buying it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeebart21 View Post
    ...fans of McNeese as well as being pretty nice guys..

    Z
    Have to agree. That pizza guy that delivered tonight was so nice I gave him a quarter.

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    Zeebart21's Avatar Zeebart21 is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoomZoom View Post
    Have to agree. That pizza guy that delivered tonight was so nice I gave him a quarter.
    Ha! When Broussard coached there in the early 2000's my son and I made many trips to watch them play. Folks treated us well. All nice guys. None delivered pizza!

    Z

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnStOnge View Post
    Beyond that I want McNeese to compete at the highest level at which it can compete to be among the best. That's not FBS for McNeese and it's not FBS for your school either. Same with Louisiana Tech and ULM.
    McNeese isn't competing at a high level amongst the best... being in the FCS. All you want is company, Misery.

    We are enjoying ourselves profusely right now and you guys are jealous. McNeese wishes they had our current situation. We are on the rise. We're recruiting lights out, and we haven't even broke the ribbon on the first phase of our new facilities. Our ladies go to the WCWS (only in state), MBB goes to the NCAAs (only in state), men's baseball is ranked number 1 and host a super (only in state)... and our football team has three straight bowl wins in their pocket. Our preseason ranking places us in a very respectable position in the FBS. Some publications see us as the potential recipient of a much loftier bowl this year (whether you comprehend bowls or not). One of our bowls was ranked as one of the most exciting of the year. We had people all over the country rooting for the Cajuns (and still do).

    And I hate to say it... but if McNeese is losing money when it doesn't appear you're spending a nickel on improvements... it isn't time to consider FCS to FBS... It's time to consider dropping football.


    Now... if you didn't like my suggestion... keep yours to yourself next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeebart21 View Post
    Whats bad is I have some friends that are huge fans of McNeese as well as being pretty nice guys... it just takes one bitter, pathetic moron to ruin it.

    Z
    I am very familiar with the school and it's fans. I spent my first two years of college at McNeese before transfering to UL. My father, his brother and their brother-in-law all played football at McNeese. My two brothers have degrees from McNeese...Safe to say, they give me a hard time

    With that being said, the fan base, student life and overall experience between the two schools are NIGHT and DAY. When I was at McNeese they were ranked number one in the country and played for a national championship. NOONE CARED. The students cared about what the team in Baton Rouge was doing. I won't even go into basketball and baseball because noone even knew they existed. You are not going to have anyone pump money into the programs when noone cares about them.

    99% of the McNeese people I am around are LSU first, McNeese second. Even the die hard fans. This happens when you play FCS ball. Your games aren't on tv so you have to watch LSU and now UL (and trust me they watch.) Hell, I even got my dad to turn and he is now a huge Cajun fan. He's always asking when we are playing and even sporting Ragin Cajun gear!

    With that being said, most of them are level headed and see what is going on in Lafayette. They are envious. They wish these things were happing in Lake Charles. Sure they will throw in there little jabs here and there about how they beat us in 07 and we are ducking them but that's ok.

    Bottom line is you won't find a single Cajun fan who would want to trade places with that school and whether or not they admit, they would trade places with us in a heart beat. Transfering to UL was the best choice I've ever made. The passion and RAGE of you fans is what made this program survive during the bad years and will make this program grow during these good years. The sky is the limit for us and that can't be said about the school to the West. I look forward to playing them in 2016 for my own personal reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJack55 View Post
    I am very familiar with the school and it's fans. I spent my first two years of college at McNeese before transfering to UL. My father, his brother and their brother-in-law all played football at McNeese. My two brothers have degrees from McNeese...Safe to say, they give me a hard time

    With that being said, the fan base, student life and overall experience between the two schools are NIGHT and DAY. When I was at McNeese they were ranked number one in the country and played for a national championship. NOONE CARED. The students cared about what the team in Baton Rouge was doing. I won't even go into basketball and baseball because noone even knew they existed. You are not going to have anyone pump money into the programs when noone cares about them.

    99% of the McNeese people I am around are LSU first, McNeese second. Even the die hard fans. This happens when you play FCS ball. Your games aren't on tv so you have to watch LSU and now UL (and trust me they watch.) Hell, I even got my dad to turn and he is now a huge Cajun fan. He's always asking when we are playing and even sporting Ragin Cajun gear!

    With that being said, most of them are level headed and see what is going on in Lafayette. They are envious. They wish these things were happing in Lake Charles. Sure they will throw in there little jabs here and there about how they beat us in 07 and we are ducking them but that's ok.

    Bottom line is you won't find a single Cajun fan who would want to trade places with that school and whether or not they admit, they would trade places with us in a heart beat. Transfering to UL was the best choice I've ever made. The passion and RAGE of you fans is what made this program survive during the bad years and will make this program grow during these good years. The sky is the limit for us and that can't be said about the school to the West. I look forward to playing them in 2016 for my own personal reasons.

    McNeese is mo longer the top dog in the SLC and they have not been for a couple of years now. Sam Houston and SLU are. The Lions scored 50 on them last year and I expect both of those schools to do well again this year. Also, when SLU hosts a playoff game they fill the stadium. That is something the Cowboy fans do not do. In fact, they are lucky if half their stadium is occupied at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    McNeese is mo longer the top dog in the SLC and they have not been for a couple of years now. Sam Houston and SLU are. The Lions scored 50 on them last year and I expect both of those schools to do well again this year. Also, when SLU hosts a playoff game they fill the stadium. That is something the Cowboy fans do not do. In fact, they are lucky if half their stadium is occupied at that time.
    ---I wish that Sam would have had 2 more years and had come here---man he impressed me at K State!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeebart21 View Post
    Whats bad is I have some friends that are huge fans of McNeese as well as being pretty nice guys... it just takes one bitter, pathetic moron to ruin it.

    Z
    I do too. I wish McNeese the best in 1-AA but have no desire to play them or any other SLC team. Southern makes sense because they will bring a huge crowd. McNeese these days not so much.

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    Zeebart21's Avatar Zeebart21 is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by RCAJUN90 View Post
    I do too. I wish McNeese the best in 1-AA but have no desire to play them or any other SLC team. Southern makes sense because they will bring a huge crowd. McNeese these days not so much.
    Pete your brother is a quality guy. I see what's happening at McNeese and I feel for those guys cause they are hard core. They deserve better.

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    Southland Conference football seating capacity:
    Central Arkansas: 9,000
    Lamar: 15,367
    McNeese: 17,610
    Nicholls: 10,500
    Northwestern: 15,971
    Sam Houston State: 12,976
    Southeastern: 7,408
    Stephen F. Austin: 14,575
    Abilene Christian: 15,075
    Houston Baptist: Initial capacity will be 5,000 with future construction phases to increase capacity.
    Incarnate Word: 6,000


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