McNeese Week 2016

[FormerPokeCenter]

There is no law that granted LSU this end around the Constitution.

"No law that says you can."

That alone makes it illegal according to the renaming Judge in 1984.

The University of Louisiana SYSTEM was created in 1974, at the same time the Board of Regents was created, under the La State Constitution of 1974. The ULS was and is comprised of 9 existing and established schools, to serve the educational needs of the whole state.

There is no flag ship.

If the system had been originally named "The University of Southwestern Louisiana System," you might have a point about the whole appropriated name fiasco. However, it wasn't and you don't.

In 1999, the Louisiana legislature allowed USL to undertake a name change, however, because there is no Flag Ship in the ULS system, by design, the legislators wisely included verbiage which afforded ALL of the 9 members the opportunity to adopt "The University of Louisiana" as long as the name change included the municipal designator signifying where each school was domiciled.

This is the EXACT same naming convention the state uses for the Louisiana STATE University system, which does have a Flag Ship, ergo Louisiana State University - Alexandria, Louisiana State University - Eunice, Louisiana State University - Shreveport, with the municipality designators for each school.

I'm sorry that USL fans feel like they're special little snowflakes where the extant laws of the State of Louisiana shouldn't apply, and where they can self-identify as whatever they want, oblivious to what they actually are in a safe space where common sense and reason don't apply to them.

What will USL demand next, trigger warnings?

Oh, wait. Nevermind. I just read the thread where USL and the Slum Belch whined, stamped their wittle feet and held their breath until ESPN3 and Raycom created a broadcasting safe space for them by expanding the broadcast team covering the game that USL didn't have a ____ing thing to do with pitching to the networks or setting up. Just like the naming fiasco, USL comes in after the fact and tries to appropriate something that somebody else created.

Maybe I'll should put trigger warnings on my posts so your delicate sensibilities suffer the affrontery of being asked to consider things logically and rationally??

[Just1More]

The roach is still here.

[duggie85]

Hey FPC, will Guidrys family be wearing House divided shirts today?? Half Pizz / Half Red? LMAO

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[CajunSaint]

Then miraculously ONE-YEAR after shutting down UL(1965) on their New Iberia land, LSU establishes (1966) an all-new institution in Eunice.

What LSU wants, LSU gets.

t-bine, your factual research and rational logic are waaaay above this simpleton's pay grade. what a loser.

[FormerPokeCenter]

John McNeese would not approve.

He sent his own son to Louisiana to play football and get educated.

John McNeese's son was a Ragin' Cajun.

John McNeese thought he was sending his son to play for Louisiana Tech University at Lafayette. John McNeese's son was a Bulldog!

[ManAboutTown]

You have to give the booger-eater his due.. He's a persistent little pest..

[Turbine]

The University of Louisiana SYSTEM was created in 1974, at the same time the Board of Regents was created, under the La State Constitution of 1974. The ULS was and is comprised of 9 existing and established schools, to serve the educational needs of the whole state.

There is no flag ship.

If the system had been originally named "The University of Southwestern Louisiana System," you might have a point about the whole appropriated name fiasco. However, it wasn't and you don't.

In 1999, the Louisiana legislature allowed USL to undertake a name change, however, because there is no Flag Ship in the ULS system, by design, the legislators wisely included verbiage which afforded ALL of the 9 members the opportunity to adopt "The University of Louisiana" as long as the name change included the municipal designator signifying where each school was domiciled.

This is the EXACT same naming convention the state uses for the Louisiana STATE University system, which does have a Flag Ship, ergo Louisiana State University - Alexandria, Louisiana State University - Eunice, Louisiana State University - Shreveport, with the municipality designators for each school.

Try to focus, my post was,about McNeese getting established not some hangup you have with "The"

There is no law that granted LSU an end around the Constitution in spitting out a new school.

"No law that says you can."

That legal stance alone makes McNeeses' establishment illegal.

Do you endorse the "No law that says you can" excuse for making something illegal?

[Turbine]

John McNeese thought he was sending his son to play for Louisiana Tech University at Lafayette. John McNeese's son was a Bulldog!

Louisiana was open 21 years and used children of local Cajuns as game reps before they ever tried using Bulldogs.

John McNeese was represented by Cajuns making him a Ragin' Cajun.

[FormerPokeCenter]

I endorse the "LSU had the right to establish a junior college campus" in 1939, under the 1921 La. Constitution.

I endorse the "Legislature had the right to spin off McNeese in 1950" under the 1921 La. Constitution.

I endorse the "USL didn't have the right to co-opt the ULS name in 1984," under the 1974 La. Constitution.

I also endorse the "In 1984, the Judge was correct in his determination of the legislature's intent with regard to the 1974 Constitution that created the University of Louisiana System" analysis, so...yes....I think the judge was 100% spot on in his determination that no law allowed USL to co-opt the University of Louisiana System name for its own use.

I also support "The Legislature Agreed, so they codified the conditions by which all ULS members might change their names" reasoning.

[FormerPokeCenter]

Louisiana was open 21 years and used children of local Cajuns as game reps before they ever tried using Bulldogs.

John McNeese was represented by Cajuns making him a Ragin' Cajun.

From Ragin Pagin's own publshed history of Johnston Street High...

" What is the Name?
A brief history of the University and its names

Southwestern Louisiana Industrial Institute

When the University first opened to students its doors on Wednesday, September 18, 1901, the name of the University was Southwestern Louisiana Industrial Institute (SLII). AS FAR AS IS KNOWN, SLII WAS KNOWN AS THE BULLDOGS AT THE TIME. Students had to complete the sixth grade to gain admission to the secondary school. These academic standards were gradually raised over the next few years. In 1916, SLII served as a combination senior high school and junir college. Later that year, SLII became a member of the newly formed Louisiana Intercollegiate Athletic Association with other state colleges. In 1918, the Student Army Training Corps required a high school diploma. This began the transition for SLII to become a college.

Southwestern Louisiana Institute

After two decades of being a secondary school, SLII became a college and began offering a four-year course. A year later, in 1921, the name was modified to Southwestern Louisiana Institute (SLI). SLI was still known as the Bulldogs but soon had new homes as a football stadium and a men's gymnasium were built in 1926, both of which were later replaced. Then in 1940, McNaspy Stadium and a women's gymnasium were built. Four years later, SLI became the largest state college. Two years after, Blackham Coliseum was opened. Then in 1957, permission was granted to offer master's degrees. This boosted the college's academic standing and positioned SLI to become a university.

University of Southwestern Louisiana

In 1960, the university's named was changed again to the University of Southwestern Louisiana (USL). USL was still known as the Bulldogs, but that was about to change. In 1962, the longtime nickname of Bulldogs was changed to the Raging Cajuns. Not long after, this was shortened to Ragin' Cajuns. "

So...unless John McNeese played at SLII after 1962, he was a Bulldog...

[Turbine]

I endorse the "LSU had the right to establish a junior college campus" in 1939, under the 1921 La. Constitution.

I endorse the "Legislature had the right to spin off McNeese in 1950" under the 1921 La. Constitution.

At what point in the establishment of this obviously new Educational Institution did the Constitution's "NO NEW" edict become irrelevant?

[Turbine]

I endorse the "USL didn't have the right to co-opt the ULS name in 1984," under the 1974 La. Constitution.

I also endorse the "In 1984, the Judge was correct in his determination of the legislature's intent with regard to the 1974 Constitution that created the University of Louisiana System" analysis, so...yes....I think the judge was 100% spot on in his determination that no law allowed USL to co-opt the University of Louisiana System name for its own use.

You are broaching issues that the Judge dared not raise. It would have destroyed his logic.

He was forced to come up with stuff like 'I can't find a law against it but HEY I can't find a law for it either'

The issue before the courts was never worthiness, only process.

But keep raising red herrings, I'm sure you have a few more.