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    Quote Originally Posted by marine dude View Post
    Simple question for you.
    while on surface it seems simple, but I have tried to ascertain similar information, but it seems different everywhere you go. also look at pro for an example. Crane kenney was president of the CUBS, they hire Theo Epstein (a famous GM) but he is actually team prez, with Jed Hoyer as GM. however, a. Crane Kenney is still prez as well and b. many times when media is referencing "GM type decisions" they cite Theo not Jed? various universities probably have way more varying structures to even count. look at the chancellor vs. president position itself, not very consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Famous words of Mike Alden.. "I've never heard the word "can't" so many times" (when dealing with our admin).
    Is that in the public report?

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    Good article on The Role of the Modern Day Athletic Director for G5 Athletic Directors...please read the following excerpt and tell me this does not scare the hell out of you..these seem to be his weakest areas:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbel.../#139b12782002

    Like any organization that is not the dominate force in the respective market, their leaders must be adept at dealing with a number of human and financial capital issues that can either spur growth or bring upon their demise if not properly managed. In particular, non-Power 5 conference athletic directors must excel at:

    Recruitment, development and retention of quality coaching and administrative talent. While schools in major conferences often have the luxury of paying their coaches millions of dollars, smaller institutions do not. Athletic directors at this level do not only have to have a knack for identifying the next great coaching talent, but must also find ways of keeping them around when they are successful. This also goes for their administrative staff – assistant athletic directors that have proven their worth at smaller institutions are easy pickings for departments with bigger budgets.

    Advising their university administration and constituents on how to best navigate through conference realignment. That means being proactive instead of reactive when it comes to best positioning their departments to make a move into a different conference, as well as ascertaining the changing landscape of their current conference and peer institutions that can potentially hurt their own future opportunities. Conference realignment often has a clear set of winners and losers, and athletic directors that are ill prepared to lead their universities through such tumultuous processes can often also be its first casualty.

    Managing ever increasing expenses while not having the luxury of tens of millions in media rights dollars coming their way. FBS athletic directors in weaker conferences must find creative ways of raising revenues while dealing with seemingly exponential cost growth, and often must contend with the possibility of cutting programs (e.g. Maryland and Temple) to make their budgets work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanof71 View Post
    Has there ever been an AD at UL who has been fired? Whitey Urban maybe because of the USL basketball death penalty, but other than that has it been resign, quite, and move on?
    Authement demoted or moved Schexnayder to Martin Hall in part over the Cyprien debacle and the summer course problem with Orien Green.

    ps the inception and bulk of the Indoor Practice Facility getting built was on Nelson Schexnayder's watch.

    pps In the Pentathlam, UL also finished 3rd in the Country under Nelson Schexnayder. He still stepped down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marine dude View Post
    ...
    So you're saying AD's don't deserve any credit for on field success?
    I think they deserve a great amount of credit.

    Scott is obviously a very good conductor. (to use his moving train analogy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post

    pps In the Pentathlam, UL also finished 3rd in the Country under Nelson Schexnayder. He still stepped down.
    That's because the only people who use this pentathlam as some sort of measuring stick is UL fans.

    By the time Schexnayder decided to step down, it had been clear he was failing our athletic program, even if his worst offense was continuing to remain completely silent while Authement and Blanco ran UL athletics into the ground and damn near left us for dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaCajunsFan View Post
    Is that in the public report?
    Doubtful.

    You have to trust who you think you can trust on that and on the supposed weak ranking of Farmer by the report.

    People like me will never see it in actual print, so I don't know what the heck to believe was in that portion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunrunner View Post
    That's because the only people who use this pentathlam as some sort of measuring stick is UL fans.
    Actually the only ones who discredit the Pentathlam are openly anti UL fans and UL fans who care what non UL fans think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunrunner View Post

    By the time Schexnayder decided to step down, it had been clear he was failing our athletic program, even if his worst offense was continuing to remain completely silent while Authement and Blanco ran UL athletics into the ground and damn near left us for dead.
    Sorry you missed the analogy I drew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Actually the only ones who discredit the Pentathlam are openly anti UL fans and UL fans who care what non UL fans think.
    I'm sorry, but that little ranking cannot be a way to judge an athletic program, which is what you seemed to suggest with you statement of "he still stepped down".

    Our athletic program was in complete shambles.

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