Farmer - Schultz

[Turbine]

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So you're saying AD's don't deserve any credit for on field success?

I think they deserve a great amount of credit.

Scott is obviously a very good conductor. (to use his moving train analogy)

[Cajunrunner]

pps In the Pentathlam, UL also finished 3rd in the Country under Nelson Schexnayder. He still stepped down.

That's because the only people who use this pentathlam as some sort of measuring stick is UL fans.

By the time Schexnayder decided to step down, it had been clear he was failing our athletic program, even if his worst offense was continuing to remain completely silent while Authement and Blanco ran UL athletics into the ground and damn near left us for dead.

[Cajunrunner]

Is that in the public report?

Doubtful.

You have to trust who you think you can trust on that and on the supposed weak ranking of Farmer by the report.

People like me will never see it in actual print, so I don't know what the heck to believe was in that portion.

[Turbine]

That's because the only people who use this pentathlam as some sort of measuring stick is UL fans.

Actually the only ones who discredit the Pentathlam are openly anti UL fans and UL fans who care what non UL fans think.

[Turbine]

By the time Schexnayder decided to step down, it had been clear he was failing our athletic program, even if his worst offense was continuing to remain completely silent while Authement and Blanco ran UL athletics into the ground and damn near left us for dead.

Sorry you missed the analogy I drew.

[Cajunrunner]

Actually the only ones who discredit the Pentathlam are openly anti UL fans and UL fans who care what non UL fans think.

I'm sorry, but that little ranking cannot be a way to judge an athletic program, which is what you seemed to suggest with you statement of "he still stepped down".

Our athletic program was in complete shambles.

[VObserver]

Sorry you missed the analogy I drew.

Turbine, you are talking about an AD who refused to pay for a UL athlete to participate in an NCAA National Championship meet because "He has already been to one this year." [As an aside, the one that he went to, he won a National Championship in his event.] Friends of the program stepped up and financed the trip for him, through Coach Lancon, and he garnered another All America for UL Track and Field.

He also refused to pay for at least two athletes that I know of to represent UL at USATF National Championship meets.

[HoustonCajun]

That's because the only people who use this pentathlam as some sort of measuring stick is UL fans.

By the time Schexnayder decided to step down, it had been clear he was failing our athletic program, even if his worst offense was continuing to remain completely silent while Authement and Blanco ran UL athletics into the ground and damn near left us for dead.

I will never forget a conversation I had with Nelson at the Texas A&M game in Lafayette. It was a great weekend with Downtown Alive, Alumni Meeting, Tailgating and the game that we won. I told Nelson that this is what USL football should be like all the time. We need to elevate our program to this kind of level. He told me we wouldn't do that. Too much work. Too hard to handle. He couldn't manage it. He didn't really want to have to do all of this again week after week. Of course, he was understaffed, but never really had the ability or desire to be at a higher level.

That sums up for me just where UL has been since 1986 when that victory over Texas A&M should have springboarded us to a higher level. Instead, Dr. A cut the budget and ran the program into the ground. Now, we are not supporting athletics to the fullest and are still stuck in the worse conference in the country with zero leadership and apparently little desire to move our program to a higher level. Other than some facility upgrades that took 30 years to do, what has changed in our leadership?

[TheFan]

I will never forget a conversation I had with Nelson at the Texas A&M game in Lafayette. It was a great weekend with Downtown Alive, Alumni Meeting, Tailgating and the game that we won. I told Nelson that this is what USL football should be like all the time. We need to elevate our program to this kind of level. He told me we wouldn't do that. Too much work. Too hard to handle. He couldn't manage it. He didn't really want to have to do all of this again week after week. Of course, he was understaffed, but never really had the ability or desire to be at a higher level.

That sums up for me just where UL has been since 1986 when that victory over Texas A&M should have springboarded us to a higher level. Instead, Dr. A cut the budget and ran the program into the ground. Now, we are not supporting athletics to the fullest and are still stuck in the worse conference in the country with zero leadership and apparently little desire to move our program to a higher level. Other than some facility upgrades that took 30 years to do, what has changed in our leadership?

Thats the good ole USL/UL thinking we all know and love.

[Cajunrunner]

Turbine, you are talking about an AD who refused to pay for a UL athlete to participate in an NCAA National Championship meet because "He has already been to one this year." [As an aside, the one that he went to, he won a National Championship in his event.] Friends of the program stepped up and financed the trip for him, through Coach Lancon, and he garnered another All America for UL Track and Field.

He also refused to pay for at least two athletes that I know of to represent UL at USATF National Championship meets.

He treated Ole Coach Lancon like ____ too. And I'm not the only one who holds that opinion. Just not sure if it was him singled out, or he did the same to other coaches.

[ManAboutTown]

Simple question for you.

Coaches get credit for on field success. ADs get credit for branding, relationships with other administrations, treating donors well, NEW money being brought into the fold, overall health of the athletic program, growing the fanbase, setting us up for future endeavors, making the school viable on a national scale, relationships with coaches, retaining successful staff.

Most of the successes here were built in (Robe and Lotief being local guys) and he still managed to ____ that up. He gets an F- on virtually all of those things.

[Turbine]

I'm sorry, but that little ranking cannot be a way to judge an athletic program, which is what you seemed to suggest with you statement of "he still stepped down".

Our athletic program was in complete shambles.

It's not little, winning is the BEST way you judge a program. Whether you are in the SLC or SEC winning is all that matters.

However winning comes from the coaches you have in place, but if AD does not do ALL THE OTHER THINGS ... like taking advantage of the winning to move perception forward, then winning is not a security blanket.

"He still stepped down."