Louisiana tied for 13th in 2015-2016 Pentathlam

[Cajunsmike]

I understand the concept, Turbine, but it is a fatally flawed concept because it assigns the same degree of satisfaction to men's basketball beating Loyola as to softball beating Oregon, or to women's basketball beating LSU Shreveport as to baseball beating LSU Baton Rouge.

No matter how many games they won last year, both basketball teams are mediocre on even the Sun Belt level. Granted the women are improving, but they are still not competitive for a conference title, even in a watered down Sun Belt; and the mean are both mediocre and stagnant.

The CBS Sports collegiate ranking does place some priority of the major sports over others. It usually comes out in late July. Football, men's basketball, women's basketball, baseball, and one sport a college excels in are the basis of the ranking. I believe things are weighted for the two main sports. Two years ago we were in the Top 30 while we were in the Top 40 last year. In both cases very few mid-majors fared so well. This year we will drop a bit due to the football 4 and 8 season. The Pentathlam ranking serves a different purpose.

[CajunEXPRESS]

---Oh how I could sell this to kids

We are the school of wins---take all the schools in the country, all of them and look at their athletic program and we are in the top 15 in number of happy endings---Our football goes to bowl games on a 4 out of 5 time basis---MBB goes to a tourney every year and now the girls too---and BB and softball almost to the top 8 in the country---a school with a total sports program--A school that the records of the entire country show to be one of the best at WINNING---that is what we do at UL!!! YES

lol

Overall wins, yeah...I guess that is why we always finish middle of the pack in the Bubba Trophy by the SBC. Granted being mediocre in so many sports and not bad can probably skew the stats.

[31Ragin97]

I understand the concept, Turbine, but it is a fatally flawed concept because it assigns the same degree of satisfaction to men's basketball beating Loyola as to softball beating Oregon, or to women's basketball beating LSU Shreveport as to baseball beating LSU Baton Rouge.

well didn't we see that come in to play with coastal Carolina in baseball..... the world valued Florida's wins more than that of the chanticleers, and see what happened. so I agree with pentathlam that a win is a win! I wouldn't mind taking pentathlam a step further and put all NCAA monies from all sports in the same pot, and divvy it up based on something like this, rather than giving an unequal percentage just to American Football

[CrazyCajun]

well didn't we see that come in to play with coastal Carolina in baseball..... the world valued Florida's wins more than that of the chanticleers, and see what happened. so I agree with pentathlam that a win is a win! I wouldn't mind taking pentathlam a step further and put all NCAA monies from all sports in the same pot, and divvy it up based on something like this, rather than giving an unequal percentage just to American Football

When is the last time 70k people paid to watch college golf? Football gets the money because it makes the money.

[31Ragin97]

not disputing that, i agree that is how it is..... but I said, "I wouldn't mind", so that cannot be proven right or wrong. but, you are misrepresenting penth, since college golf is not in the calculations, lol
if we always re-sign ourselves to how things are, nothing ever gets improved. not saying changing it would be an improvement, just we should always be open to considerations. golf is probably a poor example, but if there were entire networks devoted to it, and talk shows all week leading up to it, and bonus RCAF points for buying tickets, etc,etc,etc, you never know how these other sports would have been supported or not supported if they had existed in a vacuum.
I like the lou holtz example better, that you borrowed your quote from, I believe he originally said math class, lol.

[CrazyCajun]

not disputing that, i agree that is how it is..... but I said, "I wouldn't mind", so that cannot be proven right or wrong. but, you are misrepresenting penth, since college golf is not in the calculations, lol
if we always re-sign ourselves to how things are, nothing ever gets improved. not saying changing it would be an improvement, just we should always be open to considerations. golf is probably a poor example, but if there were entire networks devoted to it, and talk shows all week leading up to it, and bonus RCAF points for buying tickets, etc,etc,etc, you never know how these other sports would have been supported or not supported if they had existed in a vacuum.
I like the lou holtz example better, that you borrowed your quote from, I believe he originally said math class, lol.

Some of these sports wouldn't be able to exist without football, if you don't invest the money into football less people would pay less money to watch it and those other sports would be dropped. It's not about being right or wrong... Football drives the bus. Being open to change just to say you changed doesn't work....you will break more things than you fix. Unintended consequences are rarely looked at today while we are trying to "make everything fair" or "change for the better" football helps fund most of these programs now.

[CajunEXPRESS]

Football creates the overall demand for all other sports. That's why the CC win is so rare. There are a few basketball schools where football doesn't exist or is secondary.

[Duggie35]

well didn't we see that come in to play with coastal Carolina in baseball..... the world valued Florida's wins more than that of the chanticleers, and see what happened. so I agree with pentathlam that a win is a win! I wouldn't mind taking pentathlam a step further and put all NCAA monies from all sports in the same pot, and divvy it up based on something like this, rather than giving an unequal percentage just to American Football

If you want to see which teams are deemed to be the best in Football, Basketball, Baseball & Softball, check out the final polls for each sport at the end of the season. If you want to see which school produces the most wins overall, check out the Pentathlam.

It's not that hard to understand!

[31Ragin97]

wasn't trying to debate.................... I said I like pentathlam, some don't. im fine with that.

pentathlam equals no bias, can you say the same about your polls?

I don't think creator of pentathlam had the goal of making us choose which is better. but if Cajuns do better in one than the other, we should try to build the narrative accordingly to gain more notice and more money and more recruits. why pass up an opportunity to toot our horn?

[Boomer]

Overall wins, yeah...I guess that is why we always finish middle of the pack in the Bubba Trophy by the SBC. Granted being mediocre in so many sports and not bad can probably skew the stats.

---Having losing records like soccer and v-ball can bring your ranking down as can track and cc performances!!!

[gorcajun]

Track & Field and Cross Country account for 6 sports in the Vic Bubba's Cup. It is imperiative to get better in these sports to capture the cup.

[ChanceEncounter]

Consistency through thick and thin, congratulations Lady Cajuns.