Make Your Picks: Ragin' Cajuns Football 2016

[zephyr]

I know our offense, offensive line and QB play all sucked...our all American RB looked pedestrian so I'm basing my opinion that chances are not every single one of our D1 receivers suck...that our offense sucked. When we have good WR play this year what will you think have happened? They bought talent at the store? Since you know they all suck?

Again, you overstate so much to make your point. When did I say they suck? This whole debate started from me mentioning that they didn't have a ton of talent in relation to the rest of the SBC and did not get separation from DB's. Our RAC, Pass yards per play and overall passing numbers were all down the last two years and I could physically see that our receivers had a tough time getting space from defensive backs to make catches and extend plays. I did not say they sucked. I said they were not game changers like previous sets of receivers we've had.

BTW, what will you call "good" WR play? I just need to know. Based on recent arguments, their lack of production did not stem from lack of talent, it stemmed from everything else from bad coaching to Scott Farmer. Therefore, I'd assume if you see some really good production there, we would have to attribute it to coaching right?

[CrazyCajun]

Again, you overstate so much to make your point. When did I say they suck? This whole debate started from me mentioning that they didn't have a ton of talent in relation to the rest of the SBC and did not get separation from DB's. Our RAC, Pass yards per play and overall passing numbers were all down the last two years and I could physically see that our receivers had a tough time getting space from defensive backs to make catches and extend plays. I did not say they sucked. I said they were not game changers like previous sets of receivers we've had.

BTW, what will you call "good" WR play? I just need to know. Based on recent arguments, their lack of production did not stem from lack of talent, it stemmed from everything else from bad coaching to Scott Farmer. Therefore, I'd assume if you see some really good production there, we would have to attribute it to coaching right?

Yeah it will be coaching, because there is talent at the WR position. Robinson gone, Haynes or Scott don't have any issues seperating from DB's but somebody has to get them the ball.the past 2 years we had a QB with a limp wrist and basically didn't have a QB last year. If we don't get better QB play and better line play our WR will look bad...if we get QB and line play they will look good...but they are same people in both instances. We didn't have a QB standing back there for 5, 6 seconds looking around for WR's that weren't open...we have plenty of talent at the WR position. I go watch practice and have seen the other receivers.

[zephyr]

Yeah it will be coaching, because there is talent at the WR position. Robinson gone, Haynes or Scott don't have any issues seperating from DB's but somebody has to get them the ball.the past 2 years we had a QB with a limp wrist and basically didn't have a QB last year. If we don't get better QB play and better line play our WR will look bad...if we get QB and line play they will look good...but they are same people in both instances. We didn't have a QB standing back there for 5, 6 seconds looking around for WR's that weren't open...we have plenty of talent at the WR position. I go watch practice and have seen the other receivers.

Dude, I have seen us go to Scott time and time again on deep balls with no separation and no big plays. Outside of this, I hope they are able to string something together this year and move the chains. We are going to have to spread it around a lot as I'm not sure we have that go to guy so it will have to be a committee approach. Hopefully the TE's are involved along the seams more and things open up.

[CrazyCajun]

Dude, I have seen us go to Scott time and time again on deep balls with no separation and no big plays. Outside of this, I hope they are able to string something together this year and move the chains. We are going to have to spread it around a lot as I'm not sure we have that go to guy so it will have to be a committee approach. Hopefully the TE's are involved along the seams more and things open up.

That has a lot to do with coaching, predictable and I creative play calling...Scott is rarely in the game, when he is we go deep...hello...doesn't take a genius to see that. There aren't a whole lot of DB's that are as fast as him but if they know exactly what we are doing..they aren't gonna let him get behind them. I'll stick by what I said the very first time I responded...we have plenty of talent at the WR position.

[zephyr]

That has a lot to do with coaching, predictable and I creative play calling...Scott is rarely in the game, when he is we go deep...hello...doesn't take a genius to see that. There aren't a whole lot of DB's that are as fast as him but if they know exactly what we are doing..they aren't gonna let him get behind them. I'll stick by what I said the very first time I responded...we have plenty of talent at the WR position.

I am truly laughing at myself as I keep intending to step away from the argument but I get drawn back in. Have you thought about it this way? Maybe Scott is used in one capacity because he doesn't have the overall skill set to be an everydown WR? Having speed and having talent sometimes don't go hand in hand. You are right though, as I've noticed that as well when we bring him into the game, he essentially runs one route but maybe there are reasons for that?

[CrazyCajun]

I am truly laughing at myself as I keep intending to step away from the argument but I get drawn back in. Have you thought about it this way? Maybe Scott is used in one capacity because he doesn't have the overall skill set to be an everydown WR? Having speed and having talent sometimes don't go hand in hand. You are right though, as I've noticed that as well when we bring him into the game, he essentially runs one route but maybe there are reasons for that?

But you have to set that play up at least... Have him decoy across the middle at least occasionally...a hitch or something. I dont think you will see Scott this year anyway, I think he is hurt and with Shelby Christie, Barnes and Bradley, jaquet and Jackson all coming off of redshirt... He would get lost in that anyway.

[Just1More]

Dude, I have seen us go to Scott time and time again on deep balls with no separation and no big plays. Outside of this, I hope they are able to string something together this year and move the chains. We are going to have to spread it around a lot as I'm not sure we have that go to guy so it will have to be a committee approach. Hopefully the TE's are involved along the seams more and things open up.

You didn't see Scott with deep balls time and time again. You certainly didn't see it last year. You are correct that our WRs never created separation. Go look at the routes. Can you separate from coverage when all of your receivers are bunched up... with the coverage? Do you think any defense was the least bit fooled by our plays last year. I watched us attempt to send deep routes... and by the time they were looking back for the ball... the play was over. Our only successful deep balls were jump ball sky balls thrown before any other play "fake" was established. If you want to see how your offense if performing... watch the opponent defense. We never once established any fear of a single aspect of our game. Even in our best years with Hud, the WRs were just out-athleting their coverage for a jump ball 97% of the time. Every team we faced had wide open receivers. I watched how they developed those plays. They established separation by forcing our coverage into questioning the routes... and questioning the play. Our play development sucked. We had coverage that disrespected us so much last year that they crowded us at the line on every play. It wasn't because Fuse or Riles or Scott... or even Eli wasn't a threat to beat them... it was the ____tiest designed play man ever created. I saw 4 WRs line up and none of them run further than 10 yards. And the play was to hunt for the "open receiver". Is that a joke? The play design sucked anus. The sequencing of plays pulled a vacuum. Our coaches decided that if there was a way to make Haack look bad... they wanted to try it. They wanted Haack, of all QBs, to make plays on his own... like Gauthier did... like Broadway did... it's a pile of coaching horse poop.

The good news is that we're going to have a QB that out-athletes his pursuit in order to make the offense work. That's all Hud knows how to do. Well... that may almost take care of our offense. But if we add a little bit of intelligence to the routes guys run... and the timing that a QB generally starts to build with his key receivers... you seriously begin to own coverages. Our WRs have the skills. It's on our coaches to utilize them. And as for Eli... it isn't about him catching a few balls. It's about scaring the defense into what we're doing with him and when. I can throw to him and make yardage. But if Eli goes in motion and we toss him the ball on an end sweep... and the next set of downs we line up the same way and motion to be doing the same thing... that's when you stop and pop a ball to a streaking Scott. Did you ever see that last year? No, you did not. You NEVER saw a play that took the defense off the line. You NEVER saw a play that generated "separation". Why? Because our coaching SUCKED. They didn't even come close to using the talent they had. They lazily took Gauthier/Broadway ball and stuck it in the hands of Haack. They said, "Robinson... you cast such a grand shadow... you're going to be an NFL WR". They didn't know how to mastermind defenses. They just ran athletes out and said, "Execute perfectly and it will work.". Defenses, even the lowest in the SBC, laughed at us. Watch the footage. They laughed at us.

[CajunJack55]

HUD confirms that WR Devin Scott is out for the season with a torn patellar tendon. Happened two days ago. @1037TheGame

— Ben Love (@1037Ben) July 25, 2016

[CrazyCajun]

HUD confirms that WR Devin Scott is out for the season with a torn patellar tendon. Happened two days ago. @1037TheGame

— Ben Love (@1037Ben) July 25, 2016

I thought I confirmed that at 930 this morning? Haha

[CajunJack55]

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