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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    But wouldn't having private donations paying for it alter those requirements?
    Not necessarily. For instance, a town could be renovating an historic structure with privately obtained funds, but because it will belong to the town, all public bid laws would apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Not necessarily. For instance, a town could be renovating an historic structure with privately obtained funds, but because it will belong to the town, all public bid laws would apply.
    Well it's hypothetical anyway because we were lied to...we don't have private funds

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Not necessarily. For instance, a town could be renovating an historic structure with privately obtained funds, but because it will belong to the town, all public bid laws would apply.
    Been out of governmental accounting for a while, but I think for most projects over a threshold you had to get 3 submitted bids, and pick the cheapest one (or submit reasons why the cheapest one wouldn't work), and advertise in a local journal for review of the bids or some goofy junk like that. And very few people in government know about these laws, so they don't do anything until they get slapped on the wrist by auditors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post

    Is that going to be before or after the release of the detailed autopsy report on John Kennedy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    ---the process can become quite tricky at times----I remember in my yearbook days and the bid openings. There was the total cost and that would determine who got the bid, but there were different charges for additions and deletions of pages and other parts of the book---I would guess that there was a total cost of the project with again the add ons or things not covered in the general cost---So a company could win the bid but the school could choose another company based upon the costs of additions and deletions!!! Helmut I bet could give us some facts on the process!!!
    Yea.. because this is the first time we've built a facility..

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    But wouldn't having private donations paying for it alter those requirements?
    I wouldn't think so.

    If state entities are like us, that money (or gift) would have to be accounted for or appropriated.

    Because, if that gift were to fall through, how would the bill to Lemoine get paid?

    That's why I keep harping on the $3 million or $5 million or $10 million or $17 million or $21 million figures that are thrown around.

    If there was only $3 million available, I really don't think the University is in the position to issue a notice to proceed (or maybe even sign the initial contract) on a $10 or $17 or $21 million project.

    Shoot, even if the entire $10 million were available, I don't think the University would be able to issue the notice to proceed (or even sign the initial contract) on a $17 or $24 million project.

    Is it possible it's the additional $7 million cost that is causing the problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    Been out of governmental accounting for a while, but I think for most projects over a threshold you had to get 3 submitted bids, and pick the cheapest one (or submit reasons why the cheapest one wouldn't work), and advertise in a local journal for review of the bids or some goofy junk like that. And very few people in government know about these laws, so they don't do anything until they get slapped on the wrist by auditors.
    Exactly..

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Is that going to be before or after the release of the detailed autopsy report on John Kennedy?
    Latest rumors are sometime after Jimmy Hoffa.. but, you know, nothing is certain.

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    Or right after the next time the Cajun Field scoreboard shows "Louisiana" vs "ULM".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Monkee View Post
    I wouldn't think so.

    If state entities are like us, that money (or gift) would have to be accounted for or appropriated.

    Because, if that gift were to fall through, how would the bill to Lemoine get paid?

    That's why I keep harping on the $3 million or $5 million or $10 million or $17 million or $21 million figures that are thrown around.

    If there was only $3 million available, I really don't think the University is in the position to issue a notice to proceed (or maybe even sign the initial contract) on a $10 or $17 or $21 million project.

    Shoot, even if the entire $10 million were available, I don't think the University would be able to issue the notice to proceed (or even sign the initial contract) on a $17 or $24 million project.

    Is it possible it's the additional $7 million cost that is causing the problem?
    I don't think this was some kind of surprise, I'm sure lemoine made it pretty clear what was required to begin. After building the APC I'm sure tjoe and farmer are well aware of what is required to begin. It's all the lying that has got us in this position. If the project was/is 10,17 or 21....3 was never enough to begin any of those. There are only 2 maybe 3 people who actually knew what was in the account...how bout let's hold those people accountable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    I don't think this was some kind of surprise, I'm sure lemoine made it pretty clear what was required to begin. After building the APC I'm sure tjoe and farmer are well aware of what is required to begin. It's all the lying that has got us in this position. If the project was/is 10,17 or 21....3 was never enough to begin any of those. There are only 2 maybe 3 people who actually knew what was in the account...how bout let's hold those people accountable.
    Give this man a cigar.

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