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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Monkee View Post
    I don' think VO is calling anybody a crook.

    I think what he's saying (and I'm inclined to agree with him) is, it may be illegal for the University to authorize the start of a construction project WITHOUT funding set up.

    Short story...if there is only $3 million available for a $17 million project (or even a $10 million dollar project) state law would probablly prohibit the University from issuing a Notice to Proceed.

    And early on in this thread, Zoom Zoom said this would all come out in the auditor's report.

    But it was suggested earlier in this thread the $5 million Russo contribution wasn't that big of an issue.

    But, if there is only $3 million (although I thought Robe had cleared this up in another thread post), I'd say the Russo money is a big issue.
    Exactly. It is very easy to be an inadvertent crook with the Public Bid Law. It is very detailed and convoluted, with different criteria for different levels or types of government bodies, and different criteria for different kinds of projects. I know that for local government public works projects, all financials must be in order before a bid is let. It may or may not be that way for universities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Exactly. It is very easy to be an inadvertent crook with the Public Bid Law. It is very detailed and convoluted, with different criteria for different levels or types of government bodies, and different criteria for different kinds of projects. I know that for local government public works projects, all financials must be in order before a bid is let. It may or may not be that way for universities.
    But wouldn't having private donations paying for it alter those requirements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Exactly. It is very easy to be an inadvertent crook with the Public Bid Law. It is very detailed and convoluted, with different criteria for different levels or types of government bodies, and different criteria for different kinds of projects. I know that for local government public works projects, all financials must be in order before a bid is let. It may or may not be that way for universities.
    ---the process can become quite tricky at times----I remember in my yearbook days and the bid openings. There was the total cost and that would determine who got the bid, but there were different charges for additions and deletions of pages and other parts of the book---I would guess that there was a total cost of the project with again the add ons or things not covered in the general cost---So a company could win the bid but the school could choose another company based upon the costs of additions and deletions!!! Helmut I bet could give us some facts on the process!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    But wouldn't having private donations paying for it alter those requirements?
    Well why don't we just ask our admin? I'm sure they will get back to you quickly and with a thorough and completely transparent answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    But wouldn't having private donations paying for it alter those requirements?
    Not necessarily. For instance, a town could be renovating an historic structure with privately obtained funds, but because it will belong to the town, all public bid laws would apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Not necessarily. For instance, a town could be renovating an historic structure with privately obtained funds, but because it will belong to the town, all public bid laws would apply.
    Well it's hypothetical anyway because we were lied to...we don't have private funds

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Not necessarily. For instance, a town could be renovating an historic structure with privately obtained funds, but because it will belong to the town, all public bid laws would apply.
    Been out of governmental accounting for a while, but I think for most projects over a threshold you had to get 3 submitted bids, and pick the cheapest one (or submit reasons why the cheapest one wouldn't work), and advertise in a local journal for review of the bids or some goofy junk like that. And very few people in government know about these laws, so they don't do anything until they get slapped on the wrist by auditors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post

    Is that going to be before or after the release of the detailed autopsy report on John Kennedy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    ---the process can become quite tricky at times----I remember in my yearbook days and the bid openings. There was the total cost and that would determine who got the bid, but there were different charges for additions and deletions of pages and other parts of the book---I would guess that there was a total cost of the project with again the add ons or things not covered in the general cost---So a company could win the bid but the school could choose another company based upon the costs of additions and deletions!!! Helmut I bet could give us some facts on the process!!!
    Yea.. because this is the first time we've built a facility..

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