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[CrazyCajun]

Kadeem Coleby's production (for every 40 minutes played) dropped by half at W.S.

He sure got some osmosis pride out of the deal though.

You mean he produced less on a team that just went to the final four? He was playing on a team that just went to the final four.. Not Jackson state.

[VObserver]

Kadeem Coleby's production (for every 40 minutes played) dropped by half at W.S.

He sure got some osmosis pride out of the deal though.

That could only mean that they played better opposition; or they played a system in which players of his skill set all have lower numbers.

[Turbine]

You mean he produced less on a team that just went to the final four? He was playing on a team that just went to the final four.. Not Jackson state.

Yes "Osmosis Pride."

[Turbine]

That could only mean that they played better opposition; or they played a system in which players of his skill set all have lower numbers.

True, it could.

I promise you though, he was not enticed to go there with the promise of half the playing time and 27% the production.

A 40 minute comparison is kind to KC compared to what he got to do there.

[CajunAmos]

Kadeem coleby played on a 35-1 whichita state that made it to the third round, kimani Jackson went to be the #1 rated juco PF and is with P5 Colorado state, Gravitt just sign with South Carolina in the SEC, smith is the 2nd leading scorer and rebounder for Stetson, pancake Thomas 2ndvyeam all America east, 18.9 point 6.8 boards and 2.8 assists

Pretty sure Coleby was a backup with Witchita State playing about 12 minutes a game and averaged about 2 pts and 2 rebounds a game. You could argue he would have been a much more productive player with the Cajuns.

Kimani Jackson red-shirted his year in JUCO and signed as the heralded 5th rated JUCO with Colorado State. Last year he averaged 9 minutes a game scoring 2.4 points and 2.1 rebounds. You could argue he also would have been a much more productive player with the Cajuns.

Gravitt hasn't played yet so there's no knowing how that will turn out.

After leaving JUCO, Kentwan Smith did have two productive years with Stetson Hatters averaging 9.5 points and 5 rebounds as a junior (2013-2014 team record 7-24) and a team best 13.8 points and team best 6.8 rebounds as a senior (2014-2015 team record 9-22)

Both Thomas brothers were reported to have contacted the Cajuns after leaving about returning but were turned down. After leaving the Cajuns Pancake Thomas signed with New Mexico and averaged 15 minutes per game with 3.9 points and 2.4 rebounds before deciding to transfer again to the University of Hartford where he sat out the 2014-2015 season due to the transfer rule. He had a great season in 2015-2016 being named to the second team of the America East conference where he averaged 18.9 points, 6.4 rebounds, and 2.8 assists while leading the team at 34.6 minutes per game where his team finished 10-23.

I think kids always think things are greener somewhere else and in some cases don't understand what may be best for them because the don't have the experience to make that decision. They listen to family or friends and don't want to put up with rules and discipline.

I don't think Bob Marlin is a perfect coach. I'm not personally happy with the state of the program, and I think our recruiting needs to vastly inprove. I don't like seeing Stephen F Austin or other Southland schools (or other mid-major conferences for that matter) seem to be able to consistently recruit better quality players while we have what I consider to be a school with much more upside.

[CrazyCajun]

Pretty sure Coleby was a backup with Witchita State playing about 12 minutes a game and averaged about 2 pts and 2 rebounds a game. You could argue he would have been a much more productive player with the Cajuns.

Kimani Jackson red-shirted his year in JUCO and signed as the heralded 5th rated JUCO with Colorado State. Last year he averaged 9 minutes a game scoring 2.4 points and 2.1 rebounds. You could argue he also would have been a much more productive player with the Cajuns.

Gravitt hasn't played yet so there's no knowing how that will turn out.

After leaving JUCO, Kentwan Smith did have two productive years with Stetson Hatters averaging 9.5 points and 5 rebounds as a junior (2013-2014 team record 7-24) and a team best 13.8 points and team best 6.8 rebounds as a senior (2014-2015 team record 9-22)

Both Thomas brothers were reported to have contacted the Cajuns after leaving about returning but were turned down. After leaving the Cajuns Pancake Thomas signed with New Mexico and averaged 15 minutes per game with 3.9 points and 2.4 rebounds before deciding to transfer again to the University of Hartford where he sat out the 2014-2015 season due to the transfer rule. He had a great season in 2015-2016 being named to the second team of the America East conference where he averaged 18.9 points, 6.4 rebounds, and 2.8 assists while leading the team at 34.6 minutes per game where his team finished 10-23.

I think kids always think things are greener somewhere else and in some cases don't understand what may be best for them because the don't have the experience to make that decision. They listen to family or friends and don't want to put up with rules and discipline.

I don't think Bob Marlin is a perfect coach. I'm not personally happy with the state of the program, and I think our recruiting needs to vastly inprove. I don't like seeing Stephen F Austin or other Southland schools (or other mid-major conferences for that matter) seem to be able to consistently recruit better quality players while we have what I consider to be a school with much more upside.

Bob is a good X's and O's guy but he can't relate to the kids. This isn't the 50's anymore, you gonna rule with an iron fist you better be able to back it up with proof of success. You can have teach discipline and not be a dik. If you want be a disciplinarian lead from the front and have some yourself. You gonna sit people for being late? Trying being punctual yourself. Would you respect your boss that would chew your ___ everytime you are late and he rolls in an hour after you everyday? You can sit here and spit this and that...you know what you could say that they would have been better off here but they didn't stay. Some of these kids sat out a year and were so miserable are willing to leave and go juco or sit another year...that should tell you they really want out. We shouldn't have any kids that want to leave this city.

[CrazyCajun]

True, it could.

I promise you though, he was not enticed to go there with the promise of half the playing time and 27% the production.

A 40 minute comparison is kind to KC compared to what he got to do there.

Yet, he was still willing to leave and sit out...we have a kid who is staring down 4 years of starting who wants to leave.

[Turbine]

Yet, he was still willing to leave and sit out...we have a kid who is staring down 4 years of starting who wants to leave.

I'm not going to try and justify "stupid is as stupid does."

There are NFL caliber players who are willing to sit the bench for 3 years for osmosis pride, never realizing that for them, they were going to a talent graveyard.

[CrazyCajun]

I'm not going to try and justify "stupid is as stupid does."

There are NFL caliber players who are willing to sit the bench for 3 years for osmosis pride, never realizing that for them, they were going to a talent graveyard.

And some who are good talented kids that can't stand what their coach is about. That don't respect him. Not every kid/person can be treated the same and will respond the same. That's what relating to your players means. That's what good recruiters do, they talk to their coaches, teachers, parents, family friends and find out what kind of person they are and then you figure out how to relate. Or you can be a stubborn dictator and have attrition problems and get mediocre results and effort ...because believe it or not kids that don't leave but don't want to be here are even worse. Raymone Andrews didn't want to be here but Marlin wouldn't release him...that worked out great.

[Turbine]

And some who are good talented kids that can't stand what their coach is about. That don't respect him. Not every kid/person can be treated the same and will respond the same. That's what relating to your players means. That's what good recruiters do, they talk to their coaches, teachers, parents, family friends and find out what kind of person they are and then you figure out how to relate. Or you can be a stubborn dictator and have attrition problems and get mediocre results and effort ...because believe it or not kids that don't leave but don't want to be here are even worse. Raymone Andrews didn't want to be here but Marlin wouldn't release him...that worked out great.

There is some real good advice in there. Never stop recruiting.

For the record Raymone Andrews threatened to leave under Lee.