New York Post uses University of Louisiana :-)

[Ragin4U]

I thought belief in man made climate change was their religion?

Oh. Now I understand. You think science is a belief system. I've achieved some clarity.

[Turbine]

I dont get your first statement.
Thats where my lack of understanding comes in. What could someone say or do that would undermine one's faith? Hawking cant do an experiment to gather data that your belief system is wrong.
If creationism means that life has not changed from how it was created, then he is correct that evolution disproves creationism.

Peer pressure or worse like 'I'm not talking to you because you think such and such is a theory'

[CajunRed]

I've noticed the subject was conveniently changed.

[Ragin4U]

Peer pressure or worse like 'I'm not talking to you because you think such and such is a theory'

If a peer doesnt talk to you because of your faith, do you really want to talk to that person anyway? My faith is none of your business as your's is none of mine. And I frankly could not care less if a person is spiritual or not.

[Ragin4U]

I've noticed the subject was conveniently changed.

Maybe you missed the segue.

[Turbine]

If creationism means that life has not changed from how it was created, then he is correct that evolution disproves creationism.

I don't have clarity on what creationism means, but I can say you that the super broad statement "has not changed from how it was created" is not based in the Bible.

[Turbine]

If a peer doesnt talk to you because of your faith, do you really want to talk to that person anyway? My faith is none of your business as your's is none of mine. And I frankly could not care less if a person is spiritual or not.

Perhaps but a person of influence mixing two disparate topics generally has an impact. Some might say on purpose, or with goal in mind. It doesn't have to be a conversation, a seed was planted on a disparate topic.

[CajunRed]

Maybe you missed the segue.

No...I didn't miss it. Matter of fact, I've noticed that since you could no longer effectively defend your position...and have no intention of curtailing your own use of petroleum, you were more than willing to go off on a tangent.

[Ragin4U]

Perhaps but a person of influence mixing two disparate topics generally has an impact. Some might say on purpose, or with goal in mind. It doesn't have to be a conversation, a seed was planted on a disparate topic.

I can see that but I still subscribe to the belief that I held years ago when Tipper Gore advocated for record labels. If anything Ozzy Osbourne says has more influence than your parents, your parents arent doing their job.
I felt the same way when my boys school wanted to take Harry Potter books off the shelf because "it might promote witchcraft and black magic". I asked if they believed in witchcraft and black magic. They said no and then retreated with a sheepish look. Same with Davinci Code. If a work of fiction can shake your faith, it wasnt that strong to begin with.
I dont look to HAwking or Dawkins as spiritual advisers so I am pretty uninterested in their take on religion. Just like I dont care about a preachers take on science.

[Ragin4U]

No...I didn't miss it. Matter of fact, I've noticed that since you could no longer effectively defend your position...and have no intention of curtailing your own use of petroleum, you were more than willing to go off on a tangent.

I think there was a mutual agreement that our sides with different. I understand j1m's side but disagree with most, I think he understands my side but disagrees with most. I posted that I hope he is correct. I am not sure anything else can be added to that particular discussion unless you have any more profound statements like "OIL".
The conversation organically moved to the beginnings of modern science in the Renaissance and thats how we have arrived here.
You, on the other hand, seem to have added little but slogans from bumper stickers.

[CajunRed]

I think there was a mutual agreement that our sides with different. I understand j1m's side but disagree with most, I think he understands my side but disagrees with most. I posted that I hope he is correct. I am not sure anything else can be added to that particular discussion unless you have any more profound statements like "OIL".
The conversation organically moved to the beginnings of modern science in the Renaissance and thats how we have arrived here.
You, on the other hand, seem to have added little but slogans from bumper stickers.

Ouch...large mind.

[Ragin4U]

Ouch...large mind.

Case in point.