Weaver gunning for starting QB job

[CajunEXPRESS]

The numbers of success are not with the young QB's whom you've seen play "lights out". This is not the norm but the exception. Until he has had a defense that has had to actually gameplan for him and knows what he brings to the table, I will not be sold. I wasn't sold on Haack for that exact reason and he had more experience than Davis by the time he was ready to start. Playing QB is much more than stepping on the field and taking snaps. You have to be able to lead the team and adapt to changing situations, things that we are unable to know about him at this point and he is, by far, the most experienced QB on our roster which should frighten everyone. Even if he is ready to play well and lead what happens if he is injured?

How do you figure he has several starts?

I'm not doubting the potential for him. That is totally open. He's shown flashes of excellence. As I said his success relies on many other elements than his actual abilities.

Be careful defending performance on actual game experience. We've seen for example mediocre quarterback play at LSU. Les tries to not play youth.

Some guys have lots of experience on the bench like Gautier. Deemed lacking mental capacity to run the Bustle offence he mostly sat. Given opportunity by Hud he flourished.

Two full years riding the pine is plenty of time to learn the position. All he needs is a team and to execute.

[Just1More]

I'm not doubting the potential for him. That is totally open. He's shown flashes of excellence. As I said his success relies on many other elements than his actual abilities.

Be careful defending performance on actual game experience. We've seen for example mediocre quarterback play at LSU. Les tries to not play youth.

Some guys have lots of experience on the bench like Gautier. Deemed lacking mental capacity to run the Bustle offence he mostly sat. Given opportunity by Hud he flourished.

Two full years riding the pine is plenty of time to learn the position. All he needs is a team and to execute.

I know where you're coming at with QBs that just step in and get it done, experience or not. But they have to click with the system, and the other 10 athletes. I don't doubt JD's skill. My doubts are with how well our staff builds an offense around him. There's always the mental part of a QB. But even the most confident QB needs the coaching staff and his other 10 assailants to do their part. Last year was far more of a disaster than the QB. You'd think by this day and age of analysis you'd only have a ditsy blonde watching an offense and saddling the entire success/failure on the QB. Not that a bad QB can't wreck an offense... but a staff can wreck one much faster and more effectively.

I expect a cheerleader to hang her success on what her QB does on Saturday. When a highly paid coach depends entirely on the athleticism of one college student to keep his job... he's already a failure IMO. Luckily, even though Hud says one thing to fans... he knows he made a ____ pie last year. And I'm counting on his pride way more than I'm counting on Davis, Weaver or Ray.

[CajunEXPRESS]

I know where you're coming at with QBs that just step in and get it done, experience or not. But they have to click with the system, and the other 10 athletes. I don't doubt JD's skill. My doubts are with how well our staff builds an offense around him. There's always the mental part of a QB. But even the most confident QB needs the coaching staff and his other 10 assailants to do their part. Last year was far more of a disaster than the QB. You'd think by this day and age of analysis you'd only have a ditsy blonde watching an offense and saddling the entire success/failure on the QB. Not that a bad QB can't wreck an offense... but a staff can wreck one much faster and more effectively.

I expect a cheerleader to hang her success on what her QB does on Saturday. When a highly paid coach depends entirely on the athleticism of one college student to keep his job... he's already a failure IMO. Luckily, even though Hud says one thing to fans... he knows he made a ____ pie last year. And I'm counting on his pride way more than I'm counting on Davis, Weaver or Ray.

Don't think it's a debate. No doubt his, or any quarterbacks success depends on defense, offense, special teams, coaches. All critical.

My sole point, experience isn't a reson for lack of success. That's off the table. He didn't go to his senior prom in 2016.

[Just1More]

Don't think it's a debate. No doubt his, or any quarterbacks success depends on defense, offense, special teams, coaches. All critical.

My sole point, experience isn't a reson for lack of success. That's off the table. He didn't go to his senior prom on 2016.

Again, I can see your point and some of the other posters. Some QBs come out of the HS oven ready for college duty. Some need time to mature and/or study the offense. Others don't ripen until they get a lot of Saturday snaps. It depends on the individual. As you see it, JD isn't green... granted... but it's hard to say from our vantage point how close he is or how fast he'll become a full veteran. That's not an excuse... it's just reality.

[RaginCajun77]

Thing is I expect Weaver to compete for the QB position. To be honest I expect all players to push themselves to be a starter. If you aren't pushing yourself to be the best and start, why are you playing?

Experience does have the potential to factor in to who gets the nod to become the starter. What I would like to see is for Coach Hud and his staff to name a starter by the end of Spring and go from there.

The experience of last season should also be fresh in the mind of Coach Hud and his staff. What was obvious to me was we did not commit to a QB and thus did not build an offense around said QB. I saw a stubborn Coach continue to run a vanilla offense that did not produce the intended results.

What I want to see this coming season is a passing game. One that uses the TE and throws across the middle of the field. I want to see our WR's run routes and get separation. I don't want to see Eli running up the middle repeatedly. If we are going to use the zone read, then I expect to see Coach Desormeaux teaching the QB's how to properly execute it. More than anything our offense must be built around the talent we have and more importantly if what we're doing on offense isn't working then our coaches better have other options rather than to continue trying the same game plan over and over.

[RaisingCajun08]

I am more worried about the QB knowing as much of our new offense as possible regardless of who is in the game. It was very obvious last year that JD was working with a very limited playbook. One can only assume it was because that was all that he knew. Ive never played QB but I would also think that almost 2 years into a system, I should be expected to know the majority of the playbook as a QB.

[RaginCajun77]

I am more worried about the QB knowing as much of our new offense as possible regardless of who is in the game. It was very obvious last year that JD was working with a very limited playbook. One can only assume it was because that was all that he knew. Ive never played QB but I would also think that almost 2 years into a system, I should be expected to know the majority of the playbook as a QB.

i'd love to see what our offensive playbook looks like.

[BeauCajun]

i'd love to see what our offensive playbook looks like.

Last year's was a Dr. Seuss.

[RaisingCajun08]

i'd love to see what our offensive playbook looks like.

Tecmo Bowl

[RaginCajun77]

Tecmo Bowl

Pretty sure I could get more production on offense from the Tecmo Bowl playbook than we got last year.

[zephyr]

I'm not doubting the potential for him. That is totally open. He's shown flashes of excellence. As I said his success relies on many other elements than his actual abilities.

Be careful defending performance on actual game experience. We've seen for example mediocre quarterback play at LSU. Les tries to not play youth.

Some guys have lots of experience on the bench like Gautier. Deemed lacking mental capacity to run the Bustle offence he mostly sat. Given opportunity by Hud he flourished.

Two full years riding the pine is plenty of time to learn the position. All he needs is a team and to execute.

I think everybody will be a little too full of hope entering this season. QB play will be a reason I don't think we will be where we want this upcoming year. Can Whomever wins the job play better than we think and lead us to a conference title? Sure. Anything can happen. I'm just saying that the numbers are not in our favor. Experience can make up for a lot of other attributes a player may not have. There is a lot to be said about a QB entering a year with a lot of snaps under their belt. They learn to play under fire and lead a team. I think you are discounting this. I'm sure all QB's we have are talented but I don't give out much credit until they've proven it by winning games. I want to see them beat teams that have game planned for them and we were able to adjust and execute. Talent or not, experience leads offenses more times than not and we don't have it.

[ULGrad@HOU]

There is always a learning curve at any position, but especially QB. My concern is the talent evaluation at the QB level. That position has been lacking for the past couple of years. TB couldn't throw very well his senior year, probably due to his previous injury, and the fact that he was our only hope at QB and no one to challenge him says a lot to me about recruiting. Then, last years train wreck happened. We need to see some passing production from that position to be able to win against higher profile opponents, ie; Boise St.