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    Quote Originally Posted by lifetimecajun View Post
    Just what we need. No clear cut starting qb race that goes all the way to week 1
    and another fullback that thinks he's a QB!

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    The kid throws a beautiful pass a long way with no effort. He has a build like Ben Roethlisberger really thick and muscular. I'm thinking it will take more than one person to take him down. Don't know too much about his speed though.

    Spring game is on the 16th (I think) so we ought to see more of him there.


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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunjeb View Post
    Yeah... we were saying that last year. By the end of the spring, I want HUD to give us a name. A QB starter going into the fall.
    I think Hud knows better than to repeat anything close to last year. But I want a competition to keep everyone learning at a fast clip and pushing each other. JD shouldn't be crowned early. And Weaver and Ray need to be ready if JD goes down. As a fan, I'm pumped to know we've got a guy like Weaver in the mix. That's all I took from the article.

    Obviously I understand the impact a QB has on the offense... but I still maintain that MUCH more than the QB, offensively, created the failures of last year. Any of the top 3 NFL QBs would have had a losing record at UL last year.

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    I hope one wins a very close competition. Means both are performing well (well, hopefully) and we have someone capable if the starter goes down. We haven't had a guy play an entire season at QB in quite a while so we need to have 2 capable guys.

    And I really hope we plan on using Dion Ray somewhere. That kid is too much of a threat to be signaling in plays from the sideline.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    I think Hud knows better than to repeat anything close to last year. But I want a competition to keep everyone learning at a fast clip and pushing each other. JD shouldn't be crowned early. And Weaver and Ray need to be ready if JD goes down. As a fan, I'm pumped to know we've got a guy like Weaver in the mix. That's all I took from the article.

    Obviously I understand the impact a QB has on the offense... but I still maintain that MUCH more than the QB, offensively, created the failures of last year. Any of the top 3 NFL QBs would have had a losing record at UL last year.
    I'm pretty sure Cam Newton would have gotten us at least 6-6. Don't fool yourself into thinking we didn't have terrible QB play to go along with the bad o line play.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrappDaddy View Post
    I'm pretty sure Cam Newton would have gotten us at least 6-6. Don't fool yourself into thinking we didn't have terrible QB play to go along with the bad o line play.
    I never fool myself. And if you think the OL wasn't spectacular compared to the coaching job, you must be married to a coach. It doesn't take 5 poor coaching decisions to wreck an offense. But our coaching staff made 10. And no, Haack wasn't even close to bad... much less terrible. It's the most convenient place to lay the blame... because it always is when it comes to the offense. Cheerleaders blame it on the QB... he had the ball first... he scrambled and didn't pick up the yardage... he threw it and "missed"... he must have been to blame. Football for dummies.

    Well, I can assure you as clear as the sun is hot, that if any entity should be saddled with the blame for our offense last year... it was the grown men called coaches. Most get to come back and get do-overs, while past players they recruited take the blame.

    That farce last year was Hud and company... Nixon QB'ing, slamming Eli into a wall, WRs in horrific routes, dumb plays, worse play sequences, power football with an out of shape OL, no rhythm created between a passing QB and his receivers... it didn't take but one dumb decision to lose half the contests... but our staff deployed them all.

    I'll try and forget what I know... and root for Hud to return to his glory years. But I know exactly what failed last year. Injuries? Granted. APC distraction? BS. Lockeroom problems? BS. Horrific coaching? Check mate.

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    I'm concerned nonetheless. We still enter this upcoming season with little to no starting experience and that should concern everyone regardless of what their talent levels are. There is nothing that can ready them for leading their team on gameday into tough venues except just getting out there and doing it. The problem is that we are likely to experience some losses while we get these youngsters battle tested. It could be a fairly rough year.


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    Davis has all he needs in experience to be successful. If he isn't blame everything but experience, a vastly over rated thing. I've seen hundreds of young quarterbacks play lights out. More so than mediocre ones become a lot better with more years.

    He could be great. That would mean everything around him improved. He could be awful. That could be anything except not enough experience. Third year sophomore with several starts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Davis has all he needs in experience to be successful. If he isn't blame everything but experience, a vastly over rated thing. I've seen hundreds of young quarterbacks play lights out. More so than mediocre ones become a lot better with more years.

    He could be great. That would mean everything around him improved. He could be awful. That could be anything except not enough experience. Third year sophomore with several starts.
    While I agree that some young QBs step in and play at a high level almost immediately, I would say most improve with more game experience. It's the mental part of the game that good QBs improve on with more experience. JD may be good this year, but I'd bet he will be even better when he's a senior.

    He has 0 starts by the way. Only played meaningful time in the last game of the season.

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    Disagree. As I stated I've seen far more quarterbacks play well as natural or red shirt freshman than juniors with lots of 'experience' do well. Naturally they do improve with experience. I've rarely seen mediocre sophomores become excellent. .


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Davis has all he needs in experience to be successful. If he isn't blame everything but experience, a vastly over rated thing. I've seen hundreds of young quarterbacks play lights out. More so than mediocre ones become a lot better with more years.

    He could be great. That would mean everything around him improved. He could be awful. That could be anything except not enough experience. Third year sophomore with several starts.
    "All the experience" " several starts" he has 3 quarters of football experience and 0 starts. He does however possess the skill set needed to be very successful in this offense. Very fast with a good arm. A friend of mine that used to coach him thinks he has the potential to become the best QB since the HUD regime has been here. It will all depend on his ability to mature and take over the O. None of us can get inside his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Davis has all he needs in experience to be successful. If he isn't blame everything but experience, a vastly over rated thing. I've seen hundreds of young quarterbacks play lights out. More so than mediocre ones become a lot better with more years.

    He could be great. That would mean everything around him improved. He could be awful. That could be anything except not enough experience. Third year sophomore with several starts.
    The numbers of success are not with the young QB's whom you've seen play "lights out". This is not the norm but the exception. Until he has had a defense that has had to actually gameplan for him and knows what he brings to the table, I will not be sold. I wasn't sold on Haack for that exact reason and he had more experience than Davis by the time he was ready to start. Playing QB is much more than stepping on the field and taking snaps. You have to be able to lead the team and adapt to changing situations, things that we are unable to know about him at this point and he is, by far, the most experienced QB on our roster which should frighten everyone. Even if he is ready to play well and lead what happens if he is injured?

    How do you figure he has several starts?
    Last edited by zephyr; March 23rd, 2016 at 07:39 am. Reason: Too much to add

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