Stockstill - Highest Paid Coach in SBC

[Hammer58]

_ Paying Bustle an extra $200K won't make him a better coach or recruiter. For whatever they are worth, both Rivals and Scout have the incoming UL class ranked near the bottom of the D-1 schools in the nation. ULM is even ranked ahead of UL and they just hired a proven loser as their NEW head coach. I know that teams ranked at the bottom regularly deny the validity of the rankings, but look at the teams ranked at the top. They are the teams that regularly WIN and compete for championships. Even if the rankings are far from perfect, consistently being at the bottom is not a good thing. _

Go back the past 5 years and see where moanroe's recruiting classes have been ranked by these services compared to us. Look at the number of "stars" they get. Hell, just search back on this message board at this time every year and you will find the same complaints. But look back over the past 5 years and look at monroe's record versus ours and our record head to head. Not saying we have been leaps and bounds better but we've at least been better. But if you based predictions on the recruiting class rankings we should have been much worse.

I'm still waiting for one of these recruiting services to go back 4 or 5 years and compare the actual performance of those recruits to the predictions.

[zephyr]

_ Paying Bustle an extra $200K won't make him a better coach or recruiter. For whatever they are worth, both Rivals and Scout have the incoming UL class ranked near the bottom of the D-1 schools in the nation. ULM is even ranked ahead of UL and they just hired a proven loser as their NEW head coach. I know that teams ranked at the bottom regularly deny the validity of the rankings, but look at the teams ranked at the top. They are the teams that regularly WIN and compete for championships. Even if the rankings are far from perfect, consistently being at the bottom is not a good thing. _

That's because the teams at the top have the highest rated recruits. Many, if not all of these recruits have been followed, evaluated and monitored since their sophomore seasons. The disparity in coverage and rankings is not at the top. The disparity comes from recruits who may have serious talent but were unrecognized until perhaps the end of their junior years or so and had breakout years their senior season. There is also a perception battle that we have to fight in comparison to those teams at the top. We may sign a 3 star guy as he's being recruited by larger schools but when he signs with us, he is reduced to a 2 star ranking. This happens all the time. I would be that you could swap any of the schools ranked after about 80 or so and you could hardly tell the difference in their talent level if you were to judge 2 years down the line.

[HoustonCajun]

_ That's because the teams at the top have the highest rated recruits. Many, if not all of these recruits have been followed, evaluated and monitored since their sophomore seasons. The disparity in coverage and rankings is not at the top. The disparity comes from recruits who may have serious talent but were unrecognized until perhaps the end of their junior years or so and had breakout years their senior season. There is also a perception battle that we have to fight in comparison to those teams at the top. We may sign a 3 star guy as he's being recruited by larger schools but when he signs with us, he is reduced to a 2 star ranking. This happens all the time. I would be that you could swap any of the schools ranked after about 80 or so and you could hardly tell the difference in their talent level if you were to judge 2 years down the line. _

Read this article in today's Houston Chronicle about Turner Gill's contract at KU for $2M. His base salary is $229,000, which is not unlike Louisiana's max salary of $225,000. The difference is other incentives and outside income from tv & radio. Yet, they get to announce his salary as $2M.

Why not structure Bustle's salary as $225,000 base with incentives similar to what KU did which might bring his salary up to $500,000, for example, and announce that as his salary as KU did (as the incentives would be on a smaller scale)?

Why does UL always low ball everything from attendance figures to salaries? What is Bustle's actual package? If he doesn't have these tv & radio outside income and other winning incentives, then why does he not have them?


LAWRENCE, Kan. — Turner Gill's five-year contract as head football coach at Kansas will pay him $2 million a year, including $1.7 million for television, radio and other media responsibilities.

Gill will be the fifth-highest paid football coach in the Big 12. He will make slightly less than Mark Mangino was paid before he resigned under pressure last year following an investigation into his treatment of players.

The school said Thursday that Gill's annual base salary is $229,900 but has several performance bonuses available. For example, he will get $25,000 if Kansas wins a regular-season conference championship, $50,000 for playing in a BCS game and $100,000 if he is named national coach of the year.

If the Jayhawks win their first national championship with the former Nebraska star quarterback as the head coach, Gill will get an extra $200,000.

[zephyr]

_ Read this article in today's Houston Chronicle about Turner Gill's contract at KU for $2M. His base salary is $229,000, which is not unlike Louisiana's max salary of $225,000. The difference is other incentives and outside income from tv & radio. Yet, they get to announce his salary as $2M.

Why not structure Bustle's salary as $225,000 base with incentives similar to what KU did which might bring his salary up to $500,000, for example, and announce that as his salary as KU did (as the incentives would be on a smaller scale)?

Why does UL always low ball everything from attendance figures to salaries? What is Bustle's actual package? If he doesn't have these tv & radio outside income and other winning incentives, then why does he not have them?


LAWRENCE, Kan. — Turner Gill's five-year contract as head football coach at Kansas will pay him $2 million a year, including $1.7 million for television, radio and other media responsibilities.

Gill will be the fifth-highest paid football coach in the Big 12. He will make slightly less than Mark Mangino was paid before he resigned under pressure last year following an investigation into his treatment of players.

The school said Thursday that Gill's annual base salary is $229,900 but has several performance bonuses available. For example, he will get $25,000 if Kansas wins a regular-season conference championship, $50,000 for playing in a BCS game and $100,000 if he is named national coach of the year.

If the Jayhawks win their first national championship with the former Nebraska star quarterback as the head coach, Gill will get an extra $200,000. _

My first guess would be that Kansas' boosters and private funding groups are much stronger and possibly more loyal to them than ours. We have to win over many people here that give to LSU rather than UL. I think the private funding is the overall answer. However, getting that funding base up is not only left to the school but to the community.

[HoustonCajun]

_ My first guess would be that Kansas' boosters and private funding groups are much stronger and possibly more loyal to them than ours. We have to win over many people here that give to LSU rather than UL. I think the private funding is the overall answer. However, getting that funding base up is not only left to the school but to the community. _

Seems like UL could pay him $225K, then supplement with $75K by the RCAF to $300K. Then give him incentives like:

$25,000 - if UL averages over 25,000 per home game
$25,000 - for winning the SBC Championship
$25,000 - for going to a bowl game
$15,000 - for being named SBC Coach of the Year
$100,000 - for going to a BCS Bowl game
$ ? - for radio & tv

Isn't this what the RCAF is being set up for, at least partially? Using this example, his salary could be announced at over $500,000, depending on what the radio & tv package pays. And, its not just the RCAF funding. Increased revenue from higher game attendance and bowl games would pay for some of this. We'll have to structure something for a new coach if Bustle is gone after this year. Why not throw out these carrots to him and any other coach? These are incentives he has to earn rather than just pay him $500K a year. If he earns them, the increased publicity, recognition, program perception, fan support, attendance and donations should more than cover the added costs.

[zephyr]

_ Seems like UL could pay him $225K, then supplement with $75K by the RCAF to $300K. Then give him incentives like:

$25,000 - if UL averages over 25,000 per home game
$25,000 - for winning the SBC Championship
$25,000 - for going to a bowl game
$15,000 - for being named SBC Coach of the Year
$100,000 - for going to a BCS Bowl game
$ ? - for radio & tv

Isn't this what the RCAF is being set up for, at least partially? Using this example, his salary could be announced at over $500,000, depending on what the radio & tv package pays. And, its not just the RCAF funding. Increased revenue from higher game attendance and bowl games would pay for some of this. We'll have to structure something for a new coach if Bustle is gone after this year. Why not throw out these carrots to him and any other coach? These are incentives he has to earn rather than just pay him $500K a year. If he earns them, the increased publicity, recognition, program perception, fan support, attendance and donations should more than cover the added costs. _

I'm sure it is. But keep in mind all of the renovations that are being supported by RCAF and facility upgrades that must come in order to be on par with other mid-major universities. Also, why would they do this if Bustle is on the hotseat and possibly on his way out within a year or two? There are a lot of questions but few answers.