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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    There is a reason why we can't consistently recruit players here folks. I think this is yet another glimpse into that reason.
    I'm not sure we can accurately judge the situation without knowing what went on. Hypothetically speaking if he called into question he superior in front of the whole group... then maybe it is justified. I know I couldn't call my boss a dumbass in front of the whole company and not get some kind of punishment.

    That being said because you know this person and you think highly of him you may be a bit skewed to his side. Kinda like when a mom gets a call about her baby boy doing something out of character and she says the "Not my kid!" line only to find out yeah... he messed up.

    But hey who knows right? I'm just a fan and don't really have a horse in the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anhil8tor View Post
    Kinda like when a mom gets a call about her baby boy doing something out of character and she says the "Not my kid!" line only to find out yeah... he messed up.
    Sadly, most commonly heard at courthouses...lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anhil8tor View Post
    I'm not sure we can accurately judge the situation without knowing what went on. Hypothetically speaking if he called into question he superior in front of the whole group... then maybe it is justified. I know I couldn't call my boss a dumbass in front of the whole company and not get some kind of punishment.

    That being said because you know this person and you think highly of him you may be a bit skewed to his side. Kinda like when a mom gets a call about her baby boy doing something out of character and she says the "Not my kid!" line only to find out yeah... he messed up.

    But hey who knows right? I'm just a fan and don't really have a horse in the race.
    I don't want to mislead anyone. I don't claim to 'know' Hedgeman. To provide context, I'm just saying the few times I've interacted with him, he comes off as one of the good ones.

    I want to stress, my opinion of this has much more to do with Marlin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Not ideally, no.

    But I'll say this: a competitive guy like Hedge, playing for a coach like Marlin, who has done nothing but under achieve since he's been here, is a bad mix. Just because someone is the head coach doesn't mean they are right. By his comments in the media, it leads me to believe Hedge challenged Marlin. (And if he did, I can promise you, he spoke up for other players on the team that are also questioning Marlin behind closed doors.) In my opinion, and many others here would say the same, maybe Bob Marlin needs to be challenged.

    There is a reason why we can't consistently recruit players here folks. I think this is yet another glimpse into that reason.
    I have been saying for years that Marlin's strong disciplined style is not conducive to panzy prima donna players of the AAU era that have been coddled since 4th grade and told how great they are. But the ones that here, made the choice to come here. And under no circumstances would any scenario make it ok to tell your coach to f off. (again your conjecture that's what happened.) If you have been around Marlin for 5 seconds you know that HE is the HMFIC and nobody on the team will run over him. Dumb move by a good kid if that is what happened. The fact that you think its okay for a 19 year old to do that to a coach in front of the team with no repercussion tells me all I need to know. Whether or not you like your coach, or agree with him you can't do that and expect to keep a roster spot. Any coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoomZoom View Post
    Throw this into the real world...how many of us would have a job if we dropped that bomb on a superior. Or if it was dropped on us by a subordinate? Hell, youth coaches don't tolerate that.

    This is all pure conjecture. May be 180 degrees off base. Again, none of our business.

    So what has changed?

    I do know we added a player mid season, who we all love, but has cut into playing time of players that have been there the whole season. Again, coach's decision, and NO, not saying that is the issue. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know there are only 200 minutes of playing time in a game and the new guy changed the pecking order. We all think Eli was a great add, but the dynamics of the team had to change.

    That's Marlin's decision, he's the coach.
    In the real world you rarely have a single component critical to the organizations critical needs. I've seen some really ugly behavior by important subordinates critical to the those type goals. Those people aren't put on the sideline.

    Again there seems to be problems with Marlin and players. It's always something. He's had no problems tossing players under the bus taking no responsibility for his part in loses.

    Brady can't keep players. Marlin might be Brady lite with less coaching ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jumboragncajun View Post
    I have been saying for years that Marlin's strong disciplined style is not conducive to panzy prima donna players of the AAU era that have been coddled since 4th grade and told how great they are. But the ones that here, made the choice to come here. And under no circumstances would any scenario make it ok to tell your coach to f off. (again your conjecture that's what happened.) If you have been around Marlin for 5 seconds you know that HE is the HMFIC and nobody on the team will run over him. Dumb move by a good kid if that is what happened. The fact that you think its okay for a 19 year old to do that to a coach in front of the team with no repercussion tells me all I need to know. Whether or not you like your coach, or agree with him you can't do that and expect to keep a roster spot. Any coach.
    I never said he should have no penalty, so you're wrong there. Marlin always, ALWAYS has issues with the players HE recruits. Maybe his HMFIC attitude is the problem. And yes he does strike me as a guy that is always "right". Coincidence that many kids that have come through this program leave without respect for him? Idk. As long as they do what he says, keep their mouths shut and always put the "team" first, they're fine, right?

    Like I've said, this is bigger than Jay.

    But I'm glad you've learned "all you need to know"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    I realize this will not be a popular take, but if he was suspended for arguing with Marlin in front of the team, I disagree that he deserved it. If he slapped a trainer upside the head, then ok. Again, just guessing, but my money is on he told Marlin to go F himself.
    Make the check payable to the RCAF. Or to me. Either way is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    Make the check payable to the RCAF. Or to me. Either way is fine.
    Semantics..

  9. #79

    Default Re: Jay Hedgemen suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Semantics..
    More like a figure of speech. But I hope i made my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    More like a figure of speech. But I hope i made my point.
    I meant what was "presumably" said.. But your point was made.

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