Jay Hedgemen suspended

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I'm not going to argue with you for the sake of argument. If you're so certain that I'm off base, go ahead and find out how wrong I am, and come back and post about it. If that tickles your fancy..

Yeah...why should MAT have to prove what he says is correct. How dare you!!

#stickitotheman!!

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Personally? We need to hire a guy that doesn't care about being liked, OR care about liking anyone else around here. Coaches figure out who to make friends with around here, and that ensures them job security that they wouldn't get otherwise. Look at the best basketball coaches we've had.. Butted heads with brass.

Yeah...its not like T-Joe, Moncla, HUD and Marlin care about what the board this board or the fans think!!!

#stickitottheman!!

[ManAboutTown]

Well Bruh...I too served my country in Desert Storm and Cat, I only have you to yell at to get off my lawn.

I don't really have the time to go back and find where you said (paraphrasing here) "that your wallet and ability to spend time up the programs ___ gives you access that others do not have. You have also come on this board and posted many times little snippets of information that you have gleaned for your access and you portray yourself as one of the chosen few on this board who are considered an insider.

Do you consider yourself an insider? Certainly seems like it to me, with that big fat wallet you have and all!

I know what you said and I am not spinning anything into something you never said. There is no denying that you condoned the practice of this player standing up to his coach and telling where to "stick it" because sometime you have to stand up to authority! The guys in the service I have seen get smoked deserved it. Plain and simple. A leader can't have any of his people OPENLY DISRESPECT him. It breaks down the unit and it will cease to operate. Like I have said take it behind closed doors.

Insubordination is NEVER ok. If it happens, there has been a breakdown somewhere along the line. Either side is capable. But the simple fact remains, he broke the known rules of the team and therefore the University and the person that is responsible for his actions has deemed that his punishment is to be suspended. That's the facts. You come along and say, without knowing the facts (of course you have spoken to the kid a few times and think he is a dream which I am sure the kid is a fine young man) and assuming there is problem with the coach because of issue in the past that you probably don't have first hand knowledge of. So no, I didn't take anything you said out of context.

hey news flash...my 8 y/o sons teacher just called me and said he went up to her and let her have it on the way she was holding him responsible for his behavior that he knew was wrong and in the end he told her where to "stick" her silly little conduct sheet and his sad face! She was so taken back by his dominance that she gave him all 100's for the year! So proud of him the way he stood up to authority and the way they always have to keep them accountable!

#stickittotheman!!

Haha! Now I see. I offended you. All that time ago. Well sorry, not sorry.

The wallet comment was simply to turn a phrase. I donate like everyone else (mostly) here. An insider? No sir, I'm privileged to have friendships with some great guys around here that know a thing or two, but I'm not any more connected than anyone else could be if they wanted to be. That obviously bothers you though...

Keep using ridiculous anecdotes to prove your points, that will is probably going well for you. In your scenario, the "leader" is always right and the subordinate/pupil/soldier/player is always wrong. That simply is not true.

Anyway.. Geaux Cajuns.

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Haha! Now I see. I offended you. All that time ago. Well sorry, not sorry.

The wallet comment was simply to turn a phrase. I donate like everyone else (mostly) here. An insider? No sir, I'm privileged to have friendships with some great guys around here that know a thing or two, but I'm not any more connected than anyone else could be if they wanted to be. That obviously bothers you though...

Keep using ridiculous anecdotes to prove your points, that will is probably going well for you. In your scenario, the "leader" is always right and the subordinate/pupil/soldier/player is always wrong. That simply is not true.

Anyway.. Geaux Cajuns.

Don't care one way of the other if you are connected or not. Offend..not even close. I donate and are a two sport season ticket holder like many other. And I did not say that the leader is always right. What I said, for the 4th time, is that a subordinate should NEVER openly disrespect his supervisor. If they disagree take it behind close door and take care of the issue in a respectful manner. It is especial important not to do so if the insubordination comes from the leader of the subordinate group. In other words, the team captain should NEVER disrespect the leader in public. Take that crap behind closed doors.

Sorry for the "ridiculous anecdotes". Seems it was the only way I could properly illustrate to you what i meant. As ridiculous as you may think it was...the situations are one in the same. Someone broke a rule and now has to deal with the consequences. His behavior not only affects himself but it also affects the team and its record that will go into the books. It goes as far as hurting Long's chances for the NBA.

But of course its OK with you to #stickittotheman!!

[ManAboutTown]

Don't care one way of the other if you are connected or not. Offend..not even close. I donate and are a two sport season ticket holder like many other. And I did not say that the leader is always right. What I said, for the 4th time, is that a subordinate should NEVER openly disrespect his supervisor. If they disagree take it behind close door and take care of the issue in a respectful manner. It is especial important not to do so if the insubordination comes from the leader of the subordinate group. In other words, the team captain should NEVER disrespect the leader in public. Take that crap behind closed doors.

Sorry for the "ridiculous anecdotes". Seems it was the only way I could properly illustrate to you what i meant. As ridiculous as you may think it was...the situations are one in the same. Someone broke a rule and now has to deal with the consequences. His behavior not only affects himself but it also affects the team and its record that will go into the books. It goes as far as hurting Long's chances for the NBA.

But of course its OK with you to #stickittotheman!!

Let me ask you this: If this situation had seemingly been addressed behind closed doors and the coach failed to keep up his end of the bargain, you still say it's wrong to stick up for yourself publicly?

[GeauxCajuns]

Let me ask you this: If this situation had seemingly been addressed behind closed doors and the coach failed to keep up his end of the bargain, you still say it's wrong to stick up for yourself publicly?

is that what happened?

[cajun4life]

Well Bruh...I too served my country in Desert Storm and Cat, I only have you to yell at to get off my lawn.

I don't really have the time to go back and find where you said (paraphrasing here) "that your wallet and ability to spend time up the programs ___ gives you access that others do not have. You have also come on this board and posted many times little snippets of information that you have gleaned for your access and you portray yourself as one of the chosen few on this board who are considered an insider.

Do you consider yourself an insider? Certainly seems like it to me, with that big fat wallet you have and all!

I know what you said and I am not spinning anything into something you never said. There is no denying that you condoned the practice of this player standing up to his coach and telling where to "stick it" because sometime you have to stand up to authority! The guys in the service I have seen get smoked deserved it. Plain and simple. A leader can't have any of his people OPENLY DISRESPECT him. It breaks down the unit and it will cease to operate. Like I have said take it behind closed doors.

Insubordination is NEVER ok. If it happens, there has been a breakdown somewhere along the line. Either side is capable. But the simple fact remains, he broke the known rules of the team and therefore the University and the person that is responsible for his actions has deemed that his punishment is to be suspended. That's the facts. You come along and say, without knowing the facts (of course you have spoken to the kid a few times and think he is a dream which I am sure the kid is a fine young man) and assuming there is problem with the coach because of issue in the past that you probably don't have first hand knowledge of. So no, I didn't take anything you said out of context.

hey news flash...my 8 y/o sons teacher just called me and said he went up to her and let her have it on the way she was holding him responsible for his behavior that he knew was wrong and in the end he told her where to "stick" her silly little conduct sheet and his sad face! She was so taken back by his dominance that she gave him all 100's for the year! So proud of him the way he stood up to authority and the way they always have to keep them accountable!

#stickittotheman!!

Silly 100 hours. Meh

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Let me ask you this: If this situation had seemingly been addressed behind closed doors and the coach failed to keep up his end of the bargain, you still say it's wrong to stick up for yourself publicly?

At a minimum, prior to each season starting, the teams meets and the rules are reviewed and systems are in place to ensure issues are addressed. I don't think it is right for either side to disrespect each other in public. Statements like he is suspended for behavior detrimental to the team is about as far as it should go because its really no ones business except the University and player.

An active player should always keep in mind that he was invited to play at UL and can easily, within the agreed upon rules, be asked to leave the program.

I think both side risk crossing a very fine line when internal issues begin to played out in the public eye. Just look at the whole opening of the APC last year. HUD makes a comment after a loss and get some rather significant heat for it. He was being honest about an internal situation, much like if a player starts to stick up for himself in your hypothetical situation. The line is often blurred for adults and nearly impossible to see for college students.

I think the best thing for a player to do is have no comment or say something along the lines of coach and I are currently working on that issue.

[ManAboutTown]

At a minimum, prior to each season starting, the teams meets and the rules are reviewed and systems are in place to ensure issues are addressed. I don't think it is right for either side to disrespect each other in public. Statements like he is suspended for behavior detrimental to the team is about as far as it should go because its really no ones business except the University and player.

An active player should always keep in mind that he was invited to play at UL and can easily, within the agreed upon rules, be asked to leave the program.

I think both side risk crossing a very fine line when internal issues begin to played out in the public eye. Just look at the whole opening of the APC last year. HUD makes a comment after a loss and get some rather significant heat for it. He was being honest about an internal situation, much like if a player starts to stick up for himself in your hypothetical situation. The line is often blurred for adults and nearly impossible to see for college students.

I think the best thing for a player to do is have no comment or say something along the lines of coach and I are currently working on that issue.

What was your opinion of the timing of Marlin's delivery of the suspension news to the team? And, what are your thoughts on his comments to the media about him not playing well?

[BirdofParadise]

What was your opinion of the timing of Marlin's delivery of the suspension news to the team? And, what are your thoughts on his comments to the media about him not playing well?

Enough, damnit.

I saw you were going in a ridiculous direction with this. I sent you a private message trying to explain the timing without giving away what happened. You have, despite the things I've told you, continued to spread innuendo and have gone out of your way to suggest there's some sort of pattern.

And then, after I private message you, come on this board and say "Jay is going to stick up for Marlin," as though I'm covering something up or lying.

You have an agenda. It's simple as that. You are basing your ignorance (and that's what it is) on 1+1+1=352. It's bull____. And, yes, I'm calling bull____ on it.

Jay Hedgeman ____ed up. Jay Hedgeman got suspended. And, anyone who has a clue as to what happened would support the coach on this one.

You know NOTHING. But you're going to make this out to be a pattern, another reason to get rid of the coach, another strike against something YOU don't like.

Many on this board have tried to be reasonable about this. They don't know what happened and therefore they don't judge. You, on the other hand, are not reasonable about this. And you using what you PERCEIVE to be past indiscretions as a reason to substantiate what you are spewing on this board.

Coach Marlin did not run his player off. His player ran himself off. And your hypothesis, as I've tried to explain to you, is way off base. You have intimated as to what you think happened. You are dead ____ing wrong.

You're a good guy, MAT. I like you.

But on this thread, you are a ____ stirrer.

[ManAboutTown]

Enough, damnit.

I saw you were going in a ridiculous direction with this. I sent you a private message trying to explain the timing without giving away what happened. You have, despite the things I've told you, continued to spread innuendo and have gone out of your way to suggest there's some sort of pattern.

And then, after I private message you, come on this board and say "Jay is going to stick up for Marlin," as though I'm covering something up or lying.

You have an agenda. It's simple as that. You are basing your ignorance (and that's what it is) on 1+1+1=352. It's bull____. And, yes, I'm calling bull____ on it.

Jay Hedgeman ____ed up. Jay Hedgeman got suspended. And, anyone who has a clue as to what happened would support the coach on this one.

You know NOTHING. But you're going to make this out to be a pattern, another reason to get rid of the coach, another strike against something YOU don't like.

Many on this board have tried to be reasonable about this. They don't know what happened and therefore they don't judge. You, on the other hand, are not reasonable about this. And you using what you PERCEIVE to be past indiscretions as a reason to substantiate what you are spewing on this board.

Coach Marlin did not run his player off. His player ran himself off. And your hypothesis, as I've tried to explain to you, is way off base. You have intimated as to what you think happened. You are dead ____ing wrong.

You're a good guy, MAT. I like you.

But on this thread, you are a ____ stirrer.

I don't have any PMs from you. And I wasn't saying you wouldn't go against Marlin out of protection for him. I just know you wouldn't publicly condemn a coach.

[CajunRebel]

I'm continually amazed at MAT's ability to have such strong convictions things he freely admittedly has no ****ing clue about.