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    Quote Originally Posted by barisaxman View Post
    The "public" schools are thrilled to play the privates during the season to get the big gates and concessions from their crowds, as long as they can discard them for the playoffs. If they split for all sports, the private schools will strongly consider picking up their toys, leaving the LHSAA, and forming their OWN association.
    In the lower classifications, I can see where the public schools may have been able to gripe a little.. but in 5A, the VAST majority of state championships over the past 25 years have been won by public schools (5 total, 4 by Evangel, and 1 by Rummel).

    http://www.14-0productions.com/LHSAA_Class_5A.html

    If the private schools leave the LHSAA and form their own association, what does that accomplish? At that point they are still split from the public schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barisaxman View Post
    The "public" schools are thrilled to play the privates during the season to get the big gates and concessions from their crowds, as long as they can discard them for the playoffs. If they split for all sports, the private schools will strongly consider picking up their toys, leaving the LHSAA, and forming their OWN association.
    Privates won't leave the LHSAA. Personally, I'm against the overall split. Split needs to be for lower classes, especially 2A. Need to do away with 5A and drop down to 4 classes overall. Need to change to open enrollment statewide. Any kid in a parish can attend any school in that parish. That would be the best attempt at evening the playing field in athletics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjr3888 View Post
    Privates won't leave the LHSAA. Personally, I'm against the overall split. Split needs to be for lower classes, especially 2A. Need to do away with 5A and drop down to 4 classes overall. Need to change to open enrollment statewide. Any kid in a parish can attend any school in that parish. That would be the best attempt at evening the playing field in athletics.
    THIS!!!

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    If there is a split (which I oppose) then to me the most palatable one is the one mentioned in the paper the other day. For each class one half of the bracket (16 teams) are private, the other half of the bracket is public. That way both public and private have an equal opportunity to make the finals. You would have a sort of superbowl in each class matching the public and private school champ.

    Again, I prefer NO SPLIT. Establish the transfer rules, then enforce them. Other than that let the chips fall where they may.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cjr3888 View Post
    Privates won't leave the LHSAA. Personally, I'm against the overall split. Split needs to be for lower classes, especially 2A. Need to do away with 5A and drop down to 4 classes overall. Need to change to open enrollment statewide. Any kid in a parish can attend any school in that parish. That would be the best attempt at evening the playing field in athletics.
    Splitting only individual classifications was ruled unconsititutional because one class can't supersede the constitution in place for the whole. Basically you cant have more titles in one class than others, though that gets confusing when they group private classes together. The principal at Many had proposed to split 2A only but that was thrown out.

    Anyway, they're going to vote on all the proposals to modify the system for more sports and other variations on Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barchief View Post
    The vote is this Friday, and then the discussion will turn to whether or not to split the other sports as well.
    To be clear, the vote Friday is on other versions of splits that they're weighing. The status quo has already been restored and the 2013 split is officially ratified by the Executive Committee as of yesterday. So they are definitely split in football still. Modifications and other sports splits are going to be voted on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wcd35 View Post
    To be clear, the vote Friday is on other versions of splits that they're weighing. The status quo has already been restored and the 2013 split is officially ratified by the Executive Committee as of yesterday. So they are definitely split in football still. Modifications and other sports splits are going to be voted on.
    Yes and no... if none of the other proposals that are in front of the General Assembly on Friday are passed, then yes.... things will stay the same..

    But.. if the Mandeville proposal gets appoved by the general assembly, then it will be back to 5 united classes.

    Also, there is still the possibility of litigation, as the LHSAA's own counsel says that the split is still against the LHSAA's own constitution.

    Here is a pretty decent article that gives an explanation.

    http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/s...plit/79404558/

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    Quote Originally Posted by barchief View Post
    Yes and no... if none of the other proposals that are in front of the General Assembly on Friday are passed, then yes.... things will stay the same..

    But.. if the Mandeville proposal gets appoved by the general assembly, then it will be back to 5 united classes.

    Also, there is still the possibility of litigation, as the LHSAA's own counsel says that the split is still against the LHSAA's own constitution.

    Here is a pretty decent article that gives an explanation.

    http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/s...plit/79404558/
    Yeah, the whole part about them going about it like they did being against the constitution is legalese. Eventually I think it would have gotten back to the 2013 model as the EC and principals generally have the same views on the subject. They did basically just take a shortcut though

    Personally, I hope they go back to unified but honestly can't see a reunification proposal having any chance at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barchief View Post
    In the lower classifications, I can see where the public schools may have been able to gripe a little.. but in 5A, the VAST majority of state championships over the past 25 years have been won by public schools (5 total, 4 by Evangel, and 1 by Rummel).

    http://www.14-0productions.com/LHSAA_Class_5A.html

    If the private schools leave the LHSAA and form their own association, what does that accomplish? At that point they are still split from the public schools.
    They quit donating money to LHSAA, which derives much of its revenue from playoff gates. Privates are 1/3 of the schools, but generate 2/3 or more of playoff gates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Privates are 1/3 of the schools, but generate 2/3 or more of playoff gates.
    Do you have a source for this? Been looking for this info all week.

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    Welp..this has turned into a complete 180..

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    Effective next season (2016-17) on the new split


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