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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch View Post
    I understand where you're coming from, I do. You think half the athletes, maybe even more than that, go to these private schools for the great education they provide? LOL! I don't think so! The go for the opportunity to win championships and play at the next level. Lets be real here and not simply state its a better academic environment that lures these stand-out athletes to these powerhouse programs. With all due respect, its the same song and dance that for years has been used to justify having multiple, legitimate college football players on one team. But lets not forget, they're here for the education! I'm sorry I just don't buy it. I appreciate your response and hope one day we can have a system that benefits us all.
    Why do you think parents of non-athletes shell out that money to send their kids to private school?? The snazzy uniforms? It's sad that because this is all caused because adults can't tolerate the schools they went to " not getting a fair shake" athletically. Who cares if a kid uses his talent to give him and his parents a better situation? Is that really such a horrible thing? For reference I attended and played sports at both public and private schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch View Post
    I understand where you're coming from, I do. You think half the athletes, maybe even more than that, go to these private schools for the great education they provide? LOL! I don't think so! The go for the opportunity to win championships and play at the next level. Lets be real here and not simply state its a better academic environment that lures these stand-out athletes to these powerhouse programs. With all due respect, its the same song and dance that for years has been used to justify having multiple, legitimate college football players on one team. But lets not forget, they're here for the education! I'm sorry I just don't buy it. I appreciate your response and hope one day we can have a system that benefits us all.
    Let's also be honest and remember this is all being done for and by the adults, not the kids!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch View Post
    I understand where you're coming from, I do. You think half the athletes, maybe even more than that, go to these private schools for the great education they provide? LOL! I don't think so! The go for the opportunity to win championships and play at the next level.
    The private school powerhouses (Curtis, Evangel, Parkview Baptist, etc) don't really place that many kids in the next level, and even fewer go to the pros. When was the last time you heard of a player from Curtis make it to the pros? The only ones I can think of are Reggie Dupard, Michael Stonebreaker, and Joe McKnight, and none of them were standouts in the NFL except for one year for McKnight, where he made All-Pro for Special Teams.

    What makes Curtis so good is that these kids start there when they are in 5th grade or younger... and when they get to High School, they have been playing in the same system for years... that's what makes them good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barchief View Post
    EXACTLY... over the past 25 years, TWENTY 5A state championships have been won by public schools! TWENTY!!!

    Hahnville, Acadiana, Destrehan, West Monroe, etc... you think that any of these schools are afraid to play Curtis or Evangel?
    When Evangel started playing in 5A is when all this mess started. The 5A publics were the architects of all this. Then when they were all sent down to 2A, the smaller schools came on board. There was also a proposal for private schools to play in an upper most division and it was vote down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJack55 View Post
    When Evangel started playing in 5A is when all this mess started. The 5A publics were the architects of all this. Then when they were all sent down to 2A, the smaller schools came on board. There was also a proposal for private schools to play in an upper most division and it was vote down.
    The 5A Public schools have the same advantage of all Private schools. They can accept or "recruit" kids from outside their schools districts because of "Minority-Majority". Since most 5A schools are in metro areas, that gives them access to far more athletes than rural schools. The combination of rural public schools with smaller private schools in the lower classifications is where any disadvantages ( perceived or not) are. Similar to the way Texas addresses private schools, the LHSAA should force all private schools into 5A & 4A. Private schools with 3A enrollment on up should play in 5A. Private schools with 2A on down should play in 4A. Private schools with B & C enrollments should be forced to play in 3A. Of course this will not happen because the public schools in 5A, 4A & 3A will still cry about having to play private schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRanchMan View Post
    The 5A Public schools have the same advantage of all Private schools. They can accept or "recruit" kids from outside their schools districts because of "Minority-Majority". Since most 5A schools are in metro areas, that gives them access to far more athletes than rural schools. The combination of rural public schools with smaller private schools in the lower classifications is where any disadvantages ( perceived or not) are. Similar to the way Texas addresses private schools, the LHSAA should force all private schools into 5A & 4A. Private schools with 3A enrollment on up should play in 5A. Private schools with 2A on down should play in 4A. Private schools with B & C enrollments should be forced to play in 3A. Of course this will not happen because the public schools in 5A, 4A & 3A will still cry about having to play private schools.
    You actually make some since when you're not trolling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post
    Just go to a promotion/relegation concept like what is used in soccer. Problem solved for all involved. Forget about size of the school or public/private. Best teams go to highest division while weaker teams get moved down.
    Awesome! This could solve ncaa conference realignment as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRanchMan View Post
    The 5A Public schools have the same advantage of all Private schools. They can accept or "recruit" kids from outside their schools districts because of "Minority-Majority". Since most 5A schools are in metro areas, that gives them access to far more athletes than rural schools.
    What public schools that have been dominant (with the exception of Acadiana) has been able to take advantage of this?

    Hahnville and Destrhan are the only public High Schools in St Charles Parish and they don't take kids from outside the parish, and if you live on the Eastbank, you go to DHS... you live on the Westbank, you go to HHS.

    West Monroe is also rural... I don't think they can take advantage of this rule, and they probably don't need to.... the school is HUGE.. they have over 2,100 students (highest in the state)..figure 1,000 of them are boys, so for a 100 kid football team, you are talking 1 out of 10... you should be able to find some studs in there.

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    West Monroe is not a rural school. West Monroe is the affluent part of Monroe that is on the west side of the Ouchita River. They constantly bring in kids from Neville, Ouchita High and neighboring schools. They were one the schools that held back lots of 8th graders so that they would be one year older than football players in the same grade. Their facilities are among the best in the state.


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    Quote Originally Posted by barchief View Post
    What public schools that have been dominant (with the exception of Acadiana) has been able to take advantage of this?

    Hahnville and Destrhan are the only public High Schools in St Charles Parish and they don't take kids from outside the parish, and if you live on the Eastbank, you go to DHS... you live on the Westbank, you go to HHS.

    West Monroe is also rural... I don't think they can take advantage of this rule, and they probably don't need to.... the school is HUGE.. they have over 2,100 students (highest in the state)..figure 1,000 of them are boys, so for a 100 kid football team, you are talking 1 out of 10... you should be able to find some studs in there.
    Not the point, but the last classification numbers had Lafayette High as largest with 2500 students.
    http://highschoolsports.nola.com/news/article/5003880423491148352/lhsaa-classifications-for-the-2015-17-school-years/

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    Quote Originally Posted by jumboragncajun View Post
    Not the point, but the last classification numbers had Lafayette High as largest with 2500 students.
    http://highschoolsports.nola.com/new...-school-years/
    My apologies...I stand corrected.. I was looking at a very old sheet and didn't realize it..

    Lafayette 2,455
    Jesuit 2,374 (can't really count, as their numbers are doubled since it is all boys)
    Byrd, C.E. 2,231
    Denham Springs 2,218
    Catholic - B.R. 2,198 (can't really count, as their numbers are doubled since it is all boys)
    West Monroe 2,151
    Dutchtown 2,126
    Sulphur 2,003

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    Quote Originally Posted by barchief View Post
    What public schools that have been dominant (with the exception of Acadiana) has been able to take advantage of this?

    Hahnville and Destrhan are the only public High Schools in St Charles Parish and they don't take kids from outside the parish, and if you live on the Eastbank, you go to DHS... you live on the Westbank, you go to HHS.

    West Monroe is also rural... I don't think they can take advantage of this rule, and they probably don't need to.... the school is HUGE.. they have over 2,100 students (highest in the state)..figure 1,000 of them are boys, so for a 100 kid football team, you are talking 1 out of 10... you should be able to find some studs in there.
    West Monroe, Neville and Bastrop have recruited better than any of the Nola private schools ever has. I'd throw in Zachary for the Batin Rouge Metro area as well.

    It's absolutely ridiculous to think that this is a public/private issue. You public school folks are absolutely delusional.

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