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    Lets remember the Eastern MIchigan game was about two weeks after Katrina. We had many players affected by that in a way you and I still can't imagine.

    I think that team could be forgiven because of that particular event.

    We lost to Texas, beat Northwestern State by 3 TD and got beat by UCF 24-21 on a late score.

    But even if we win vs. EMU and UCF, we still don't go to a bowl at 8-3


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    Quote Originally Posted by CrappDaddy View Post
    We got pounded by eastern michigan that year. They were and are one of the worst teams in D1. We beat some bad teams that year. How can you say they were better than our current schedule? Show me the numbers.

    MT, north texas, Troy? Those teams are not any better then or now than what we are playing in conference currently.
    You're right.

    I was thinking of the Nelson years' schedule strength numbers which were considerably higher than either Bustle's or Hud's.

    The schedule strength numbers for Bustle and Hud are nearly identical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post

    Bustle rebuilt a program from nothing. Hudpseth inherited everything and was given an easier schedule to boot.
    A "program" yes but nonetheless it was a program he could only get 3 wins out of at his end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    You're right.

    I was thinking of the Nelson years' schedule strength numbers which were considerably higher than either Bustle's or Hud's.

    The schedule strength numbers for Bustle and Hud are nearly identical.
    Something to consider for Nelson's tenure his schedule was stronger but his talent pool was only divided amongst 90 or so teams.

    There are 3,000 more kids being sucked up by the schools that joined the D1 ranks since then.

    Yes the added schools make the schedule easier, but the ability to attract quality athletes is much, much harder today than it was 20+ years ago.

    Meaning the results are a wash and it is fair to compare final records.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Something to consider for Nelson's tenure his schedule was stronger but his talent pool was only divided amongst 90 or so teams.

    There are 3,000 more kids being sucked up by the schools that joined the D1 ranks since then.

    Yes the added schools make the schedule easier, but the ability to attract quality athletes is much, much harder today than it was 20+ years ago.

    Meaning the results are a wash and it is fair to compare final records.
    You have to negate that recruiting metric by the realization that recruiting wasn't as widespread as it is today so that larger talent pool might have been...but the majority of prospects weren't reachable like they are today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    You have to negate that recruiting metric by the realization that recruiting wasn't as widespread as it is today so that larger talent pool might have been...but the majority of prospects weren't reachable like they are today.
    That is true.

    Even then the State of Louisiana had the largest number of players (per capita) in the Nation.

    With less outside competition, advantage Nelson.

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    Turbine
    You are obviously dealing with pragmatic facts but that does not seem to matter to some


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    I think Hud is trying to trick himself. Not sure how much he believes about his own coach speak. A clip was played this morning on 103.7 I guessing from an interview yesterday or Tuesday. Hud was all juiced up about how great of a Homecoming we were going to have. So many former players were coming back, tailgating was going to be great, attendance was going to be great, weather was going to be great, .....

    I just hope we have 1 more point on the scoreboard more than Monroe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    That is true.

    Even then the State of Louisiana had the largest number of players (per capita) in the Nation.

    With less outside competition, advantage Nelson.
    Still the majority of those players, especially top tier where penciled in at LSU, and major southern schools, and some northern schools had set up shop in Louisiana at the time. So it was similar to the way it is now. The top tier are still penciled in at LSU, and most Southern powerhouses set up shop, but smaller level P5 programs now have the resources to recruit heavily in Louisiana and other southern states. It's no longer just the big northern powers who can recruit the south anymore. Therefore...any recruiting advantage Nelson had...is negated.

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