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Thread: Intentional Grounding, The 2011 Rogue Coach NCAA Infractions

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    The VW scandals go pretty far up the vast but the majority of stockholders had no clue, most employees had no clue, dealers had no clue. They're all gonna suffer at least as much as the perpetrators. Their retirement, businesses, and jobs in the tank. Customers resale values in the tank.

    VW Is taking a blood bath over their sins regardless of how high up it goes. Life expectancy shortened by hours globall from faulty testing . They deserve their punishment.

    By making institutions responsible there should be fewer rogues. Even though The very term rogue says it's out of your control.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sportsfanatic21 View Post
    I don't see it as knee jerk. They've known about this investigation for over a year.
    A canned response and a knee jerk response are similar in that they can both be accomplished without much thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun90 View Post

    The NCAA even has in their by-laws what the penalties should be ...

    ... This is a well defined process
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    Thanks for the excellent explanation.

    So if well designed, why the need for "Summary Disposition" with personal suggestions?

    If well designed, seems we should already know the conclusion of the matter.

    jmo

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    Quote Originally Posted by MelRock View Post
    You can read about Ginny Crager in the book Meat Market: Inside the Smash-Mouth World of College Football Recruiting. It looks like she is in her 70s now.
    https://books.google.com/books?id=-y...Crager&f=false

    She was very influential in getting Jerrell Powe eligible at Ole Miss.

    I highly recommend Meat Market. You guys will recognize a lot of coaches names in the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364 View Post
    She was very influential in getting Jerrell Powe eligible at Ole Miss.

    I highly recommend Meat Market. You guys will recognize a lot of coaches names in the book.
    She retired and took her retirement early after lawyering up with the NCAA. She is not going to testify so the NCAA just has the testimony of several recruits. If a person refuses to cooperate with the NCAA, they take it as an admission of guilt. This is what they have with Cage and Saunders at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364 View Post
    She was very influential in getting Jerrell Powe eligible at Ole Miss.

    I highly recommend Meat Market. You guys will recognize a lot of coaches names in the book.
    Yep

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    It is kind of like a plea bargain. You try and create the punishment so the NCAA believes you are acting in good faith. They can add to it or refuse it altogether, but I think offering this as a possible penalty is the best of (all of the bad) options.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Obviously you are in the majority and I am probably alone in my take.

    I just feel knee jerk, cookie cutter, canned responses generally serve low long term value.

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    My dad had a saying when I was growing up and made poor decisions resulting in some type of punishment. "Much like bad gas, this too will pass."


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    What a slap in the face to all of the players and the seniors who carried that team to victory. Saunders recruits would not have affected that season or the NO Bowl...so I am not sure why they chose that year to vacate. Really ____es me off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MissingMandy View Post
    What a slap in the face to all of the players and the seniors who carried that team to victory. Saunders recruits would not have affected that season or the NO Bowl...so I am not sure why they chose that year to vacate. Really ____es me off.
    For the most part I agree with you Mandy, but one player did play that year in the bowl game. The other played during the 2012 football season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissingMandy View Post
    What a slap in the face to all of the players and the seniors who carried that team to victory. Saunders recruits would not have affected that season or the NO Bowl...so I am not sure why they chose that year to vacate. Really ____es me off.
    Cajun fans will never vacate that season. Nor will those players. That season happened, the bowl win happened, it was the most memorable season and game of my life, at least. We all know what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    For the most part I agree with you Mandy, but one player did play that year in the bowl game. The other played during the 2012 football season.
    And there ladies and gentlemen will be the NCAA's lick on us, the 2012 season 0-13

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