Intentional Grounding, The 2011 Rogue Coach NCAA Infractions

[HelmutVII]

Well I guess this will give us a couple of years to get hungry for a bowl game. The way the outside of the APC looks, the flag raising, the PA system at cajun field along with other things we all complain about are minor in comparison.

[TechAlum05]

I've heard nothing about UL vacating anything yet. Was this supposedly done today?

It's part of the university response to the NCAA on August 20th, 2015. It's one of the two PDFs on the link with the article from the university released tonight.

[DocCajun]

I just hope the effects are contained to football...on the face they should be, but if the sanctions are harsh, it could trickle down

[Just1More]

I simply don't understand these things. Why do I or you have to suffer for the behavior of this rogue coach? It's always this way with the NCAA. Why aren't the people that did this not prosecuted instead? Even if this happens with a school we have a major disdain for, I do not agree with penalizing the entire university. That doesn't prevent a criminally inspired person from attempting to further his own career. What's to say someone infiltrates a school, under payment from another rival, just to get them in trouble? Screw paying a player. Pay a mole in a rival organization to cheat. My point isn't that this happened here. It's just that the NCAA has notoriously used the expectation of perfect compliance policing internal to a program (impossible) and they don't seem to focus on the individual offender. If you prosecute the direct offender, it would be more effective.

[CajunEXPRESS]

You cannot as the NCAA do anything to the individual coach except make him a poison pill for other programs. The NCAA is telling it's members it's up to them to be overwrought with fear and trepidation. It's their responsibility.

[Redgineer]

We should sue the NCAA for not finding this out while Saunders was at Ole Miss.

[Cajun90]

Before anyone else ask another question please spend twenty or thirty minutes reading the documents that are linked in this thread. They will answer all your questions with the exception of the redacted names of the student athletes. Won't be hard to figure out who they are.

Seems our athletic staff has been consumed with a lot more than the APC.

[Oiler]

I simply don't understand these things. Why do I or you have to suffer for the behavior of this rogue coach? It's always this way with the NCAA. Why aren't the people that did this not prosecuted instead? Even if this happens with a school we have a major disdain for, I do not agree with penalizing the entire university. That doesn't prevent a criminally inspired person from attempting to further his own career. What's to say someone infiltrates a school, under payment from another rival, just to get them in trouble? Screw paying a player. Pay a mole in a rival organization to cheat. My point isn't that this happened here. It's just that the NCAA has notoriously used the expectation of perfect compliance policing internal to a program (impossible) and they don't seem to focus on the individual offender. If you prosecute the direct offender, it would be more effective.

I agree. Is an employer held accountable if one of his employees robs a bank?

[RaginScotsman]

So we went 0-12 in 2011?

[Cajun90]

So we went 0-12 in 2011?

Yes. I've never heard of the NCAA not accepting self imposed penalties. On the other hand they don't have a problem adding to them.

[axg8750]

Before anyone else ask another question please spend twenty or thirty minutes reading the documents that are linked in this thread. They will answer all your questions with the exception of the redacted names of the student athletes. Won't be hard to figure out who they are.

Seems our athletic staff has been consumed with a lot more than the APC.

I said this in a post earlier in the week. There is something else on the coaching staff's mind and losing a few games or even a whole bad season is small potatoes compared to what is actually going on. This sucks big time.

[TechAlum05]

So we went 0-12 in 2011?

I believe it would be 0-4 in 2011 if all the wins are vacated. The football program would essentially be giving up the wins. The opposing teams would not be credited with wins against your program in the case of vacancies, though.

Now, if your program forfeited the entire season, then you would be 0-13 in the record books in 2011.