Intentional Grounding, The 2011 Rogue Coach NCAA Infractions

[angeleast]

We corrected the problem as soon as we were sure about Saunders and self-imposed sanctions on ourselves. What else could we have done?

I agree.. But we have that school to the east and to the north who will scream bloody murder etc. I just worry that eventhough if the allegations are true, I'M sorry wont be enough for the blood thirsty out there

[Stabil123]

how do you know we self-imposed? and what were the sanctions we observed?

Read the administrations response to the NCAA

[billbeck451]

1420 had a good article on the issue

[Redgineer]

Read the administrations response to the NCAA

Page IN-8 of the response.
http://ragincajuns.com/news/2015/10/...011155803.aspx

[Crawfish]

I suspect it may have been one of the students who started this.. but who knows.

From reading this, I think there may have been more than one student (maybe 2 or 3), and they have another alleged violation that Saunders may have paid for the retesting. This is not exactly buying the athlete a a convertible, but nonetheless illegal.

[Redgineer]

1420 had a good article on the issue

http://espn1420.com/ul-issues-statem...tball-program/

[cajun4life]

We toast.

[TechAlum05]

Ole Miss is over five years ago, they are not subject to any mis doings while there. Statue of limitations.

So the students did not know he was cheating, the ACT are given by supposed neutral independent testing groups. Can someone educate me on how he gets around this. Could he be paying a testing employee? Did the scores get compromised? False scores.?

According to the information provided by NCAA, it looks like David Saunders had an arrangement with the ACT coordinator at Wayne County High School to commit ACT exam fraud with the potential football student-athletes. Since the ACT coordinator had sole access to the ACT testing materials after the exams were completed, it would have been very easy for that person to pull the answer sheets in question and change the answer sheets in order to get an ACT score which met the necessary requirements.

David Saunders said to the NCAA Enforcement Staff in December 2013 that the Wayne County site was the only ACT site he told recruits about since 2008. In theory, he could have told Ole Miss recruits about it while he was the Administrative Operations Coordinator in 2010, but I can't confirm that.

The four allegations in this case are:
1. ACT exam fraud by David Saunders involving six potential football student athletes
2. Recruiting inducements by David Saunders (payments for living and educational expenses)
3. David Saunders giving false and misleading information to NCAA Enforcement
4. David Saunders refusing to provide information to NCAA Enforcement

UL-Lafayette has self-imposed the following penalties:
1. IMposed a two-year period of probation
2. Reduced initial and total football grant-in-aid for the 2015-16, 2016-17, and 2017-2018 years
3. Reduced the number of permissable off-campus recruiting activities by a total a 40 days during the 2014-15 and 2015-16 academic years
4. Reduced recruiting communications for a 3-week period during Fall 2015
5. The 2011 football season, including the 2011 New Orleans Bowl win, have been vacated.

[Oiler]

According to the information provided by NCAA, it looks like David Saunders had an arrangement with the ACT coordinator at Wayne County High School to commit ACT exam fraud with the potential football student-athletes. Since the ACT coordinator had sole access to the ACT testing materials after the exams were completed, it would have been very easy for that person to pull the answer sheets in question and change the answer sheets in order to get an ACT score which met the necessary requirements.

David Saunders said to the NCAA Enforcement Staff in December 2013 that the Wayne County site was the only ACT site he told recruits about since 2008. In theory, he could have told Ole Miss recruits about it while he was the Administrative Operations Coordinator in 2010, but I can't confirm that.

The four allegations in this case are:
1. ACT exam fraud by David Saunders involving six potential football student athletes
2. Recruiting inducements by David Saunders (payments for living and educational expenses)
3. David Saunders giving false and misleading information to NCAA Enforcement
4. David Saunders refusing to provide information to NCAA Enforcement

UL-Lafayette has self-imposed the following penalties:
1. IMposed a two-year period of probation
2. Reduced initial and total football grant-in-aid for the 2015-16, 2016-17, and 2017-2018 years
3. Reduced the number of permissable off-campus recruiting activities by a total a 40 days during the 2014-15 and 2015-16 academic years
4. Reduced recruiting communications for a 3-week period during Fall 2015
5. The 2011 football season, including the 2011 New Orleans Bowl win, have been vacated.

I've heard nothing about UL vacating anything yet. Was this supposedly done today?

[ZoomZoom]

Random thoughts, too ticked off for continuous thought...

The fascinating part of this is I googled the "alleged" POS. Must be off somewhere with the Easter Bunny.

Gives me the impression the coaching fraternity black balled him. Very convenient for Ole Miss to start investigating and low and behold, 5 year window closes their investigation.

Amazing for all the claimed knowledge that graces this board, this never came up.

The circle jerks on the LTUR and ULMost sites are going full lube.

Read the entire 78 pages, it's bad, but not as bad as some fear. PLEASE READ THE REPORT BEFORE POSTING. Self sanctions may work.

The sun will rise tomorrow, birds will sing, life goes on. It's the nature of college sports, it just sucks when it's your program. We'll take our punishment and move on, no legal pushback. We'll be ok...in a few years.

On the bright side, our coach was not asked to take "indefinite leave" and minutes later changed to "medical leave" today, nor was he fired in the locker room after a 66-7 whooping by a FCS program for our homecoming. The sky is not falling. However...

George Carlin's 7 little words keep rolling thru my head...

[Duckster]

Just unbelievable. This is terrible.

[ulXrunner]

Who knows what will happen...we all know if you ain't a P5 $maker you are screwed quickly. No lube!