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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    You are correct. For those who say that there is no such thing as a turnover battle, I disagree. This game was lost due to turnovers and nothing else.
    When your offense is assigned the responsibility of not coughing up the ball... and your defense is assigned the responsibility of trying to take the ball away... and the two have absolutely nothing to do with each other... calling it a battle with the other team is meaningless. I'm all for coaching my offense to limit turnovers. I'm all for coaching my defense to force turnovers. The two sides don't get an award for their combined net effort. The only common battle is the score at the end. I'll give you "turnover battle" if you acknowledge the other 50 critical battles that don't get equal billing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun_Engr View Post
    I will also say I put this game ahead of the near Florida win in 2011. That Florida team had no offense and UL had one real drive in that game. UL played well in the Florida game but got a little lucky and made a big play on that blocked punt.

    I would say that the UL team I saw last night would have won that UF game in 2011.

    I don't know if I'm just hyped to see a solid UL team or what, but I was REALLY impressed last night.

    Take away the 1st Q which was us getting in the groove, after all remember 1st game of the season and we have true freshman playing in some positions don't forgot ... and we looked outstanding against a "bigger/faster" SEC team last night.
    My thoughts exactly.

    Also play those games at The Real Swamp and UL has 2 more victories under its belt.

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    Default Re: Game Talk: Louisiana (0) vs. Kentucky (0)

    Saw a post someone talked about HUD being a good motivator, but not good coach. For one, that is debatable. But either way in college football, what a head coach needs to be is much more than Xs and Os on gameday. There is so much more to it and recruiting, conditioning, etc and so much that goes on outside of gameday that the fans don't see. And the motivator part is just as important to not motivate the players, but to motivate the fanbase, which obviously hud has done.

    And I think we may have differing views on huds Xs and Os prowess, but there is no denying his ability to motivate the players and the fanbase and the transformation he has made.

    And those things aside, from the game last night it looked like we had the better conditioned, better prepared players. I saw the UK defense trying to catch their breath and having to even do a fake injury to slow things down, while our guys were rolling. And we don't have a fraction of the depth that those guys have.


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    Default Re: Game Talk: Louisiana (0) vs. Kentucky (0)

    I didn't see this mentioned anywhere but right after we tied it up and kickoffed the Kentucky fumbled the kick at the 2 and the ball went backwards into the end zone where he then took a knee. How was that a safety?


  5. Sunbelt Re: Game Talk: Louisiana (0) vs. Kentucky (0)

    He never controlled the ball, and it went into the end zone on it's own momentum he recovered it in the end zone. That's how.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    When your offense is assigned the responsibility of not coughing up the ball... and your defense is assigned the responsibility of trying to take the ball away... and the two have absolutely nothing to do with each other... calling it a battle with the other team is meaningless. I'm all for coaching my offense to limit turnovers. I'm all for coaching my defense to force turnovers. The two sides don't get an award for their combined net effort. The only common battle is the score at the end. I'll give you "turnover battle" if you acknowledge the other 50 critical battles that don't get equal billing.
    4-0. That was the difference in turnovers but I'm sure you already knew that. Each of those turnovers had a direct impact on the game. Would you not agree? This is a key stat that often determines winners and losers in many football games. If you choose to neglect it, that's fine but I think most would disagree.

  7. Sunbelt Re: Game Talk: Louisiana (0) vs. Kentucky (0)

    It is a key stat, but IMO you cannot look at that stat in a vacuum. Was it a caused turnover, were you doing too much to try to catch up, are you playing from behind. It all snowballs when you play from the back, turnover begets turnover.

    Ha, Marshall just fumbled on a huge gain by their qb. Perdue grabbed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    4-0. That was the difference in turnovers but I'm sure you already knew that. Each of those turnovers had a direct impact on the game. Would you not agree? This is a key stat that often determines winners and losers in many football games. If you choose to neglect it, that's fine but I think most would disagree.
    Turnovers played a huge part but they had one as well. 4-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364 View Post
    Turnovers played a huge part but they had one as well. 4-1.
    LOL. Ok. But you get my point. That lone turnover also created our tying score. It shows the importance.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    LOL. Ok. But you get my point. That lone turnover also created our tying score. It shows the importance.
    I've never debated that turnovers are huge. I've never debated time of possession, maintaining field position, special teams play, 3rd down conversions, and an assortment of important factors that matter. I simply disagree with this fictitious "battle" terminology. I'd coach people with the football to not cough it up. I'd coach defensive players to force fumbles or to intelligently jump a route for a pick... but in none of that would I convey a battle is there to be won. To me, it's low brow coach speak. But if somehow it makes our guys loins swell, I'll leave it alone. I just dislike the meaningless phrases that get coined as "strategy" in this game.

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