POLL: Rate the hire - Jim Harris

[BrockMeaux]

No... actually people that knew Steve Hale brought him up on here and tried to promote him being interviewed. Others, like yourself, that knew absolutely nothing about Steve Hale attempted to down rate him. It's not lost on me that you feigned innocence in creating this poll as a natural follow up to the hire... and shortly thereafter have ignorantly attempted to parallel it to what transpired with Hale. I don't see you as a shill for this administration. I see you as needing attention. You deliberately place yourself as a counter to many arguments on this forum, with absolutely no knowledge on the subject matter. When a person does that, they need to accept the personal abuse it brings them. Carry on...

[CajunRebel]

BB, I apologize sincerely, but its impossible for me to let this poisonous individual cloud the waters without responding.

[X] Steve Hale was not going to be hired.
[X] Farmer was doing the hiring for this position.
Not a single person here claimed that. We all said he was sifting through resumes and sat in on the interviews. He admitted as much.
[X] Hud wants Hale hired, and he'll leave the program if Steve Hale is not hired
Not a single person said this. Hud did want Hale, and I personally INSINUATED that his hiring of a second agent could mean he was looking else where. That could not be possibly proven anytime soon.
[X] A good ol' boy who knows Farmer and/or T-Joe will be hired.
Not a single person said this would be the case, again.
[X] The person who is hired will not have an impressive resume.
The guy we all wanted blew away everyone under the sound of his voice. Harris had a press conference and not a single person reported their experience as "blown away".
[X] A host of RCAF members will resign if Hale is not hired.
This will happen, mark my words. Again, this could not POSSIBLY be proven hours after the hire.
[X] The hire will come from an FCS or SWAC program.
Not a single person said that. The only time this came up was when one of your leaders leaked it because he's a moron who likes attention, like you.
[X] Steve Hale was asked to apply so "the fix would be in for a good ol' boy."
This sentence doesn't even make sense. We don't live in la-la land as you do dough boy.

I could not help it. The person behind this screen name is a miserable, poisonous individual who does nothing to progress us, only comes here to stir, as J1M stated. I'm confident no one takes this little man seriously, other than the small minds that think in a similar pattern, so I'm not too concerned about his influence. I just couldn't hold it anymore.

I'm really done this time Coach.

Ok, here we go.

First of all, When you and others allege everything as if it were fact and claim you're hearing all this from first-hand sources, you don't get to backtrack after the fact and say you were just "insinuating."

Well its not a conspiracy theory.. What we've posted are not theories..

[X] Steve Hale was not going to be hired.

[?] Farmer was doing the hiring for this position.
Not a single person here claimed that. We all said he was sifting through resumes and sat in on the interviews. He admitted as much.

It was supposed to be an RCAF hiring independent from the university. That had apparently changed and Farmer has interjected.

No, the RCAF board asked this guy to interview. Then T-Joe and Farmer, really Farmer involved himself in the process to put his own guy in.

[ ] Hud wants Hale hired, and he'll leave the program if Steve Hale is not hired
Not a single person said this. Hud did want Hale, and I personally INSINUATED that his hiring of a second agent could mean he was looking else where. That could not be possibly proven anytime soon.

There was at least one other person here who said Hud would be on the first bus out of here if Hale wasn't hired.



[ ] A good ol' boy who knows Farmer and/or T-Joe will be hired.

They even know that the fix is in and we will pass on the MOST QUALIFIED candidate for a hand picked crony.

The bottom line here is this administration doesn't want the best candidate. They want the candidate that they can control. They want a yes man who won't ruffle feathers.

[ ] The person who is hired will not have an impressive resume.

Very weak final group of candidates. If our AD is already understaffed and overwhelmed this pool of applicants do not help this at all.

[ ] A host of RCAF members will resign if Hale is not hired.
This will happen, mark my words. Again, this could not POSSIBLY be proven hours after the hire.

Well, I guess if it happens we'll both know. Until then, no one has resigned.



[ ] The hire will come from an FCS or SWAC program.
Not a single person said that. The only time this came up was when one of your leaders leaked it because he's a moron who likes attention, like you.

You not far off Turbine, SWAC and SLC ties.

I was all for letting the process play out until the applicant pool read like a group of rejects from the SLC and SWAC. Because every program there is flush with cash.

[ ] Steve Hale was asked to apply so "the fix would be in for a good ol' boy."
This sentence doesn't even make sense. We don't live in la-la land as you do dough boy.

I know they won't hire the best candidate, Farmer an T-Joe don't want the best candidate. They want their puppet, so they can control who they solicit for finds and how much. The fix is in fellas.

No, the RCAF board asked this guy to interview. Then T-Joe and Farmer, really Farmer involved himself in the process to put his own guy in.

(cajun4life, I'm not trying to pick on you with this post. It's just that your posts started this whole mess.)

[cajun4life]

Ok, here we go.

First of all, When you and others allege everything as if it were fact and claim you're hearing all this from first-hand sources, you don't get to backtrack after the fact and say you were just "insinuating."

[X] Steve Hale was not going to be hired.

[?] Farmer was doing the hiring for this position.
Not a single person here claimed that. We all said he was sifting through resumes and sat in on the interviews. He admitted as much.





[ ] Hud wants Hale hired, and he'll leave the program if Steve Hale is not hired
Not a single person said this. Hud did want Hale, and I personally INSINUATED that his hiring of a second agent could mean he was looking else where. That could not be possibly proven anytime soon.

There was at least one other person here who said Hud would be on the first bus out of here if Hale wasn't hired.



[ ] A good ol' boy who knows Farmer and/or T-Joe will be hired.





[ ] The person who is hired will not have an impressive resume.




[ ] A host of RCAF members will resign if Hale is not hired.
This will happen, mark my words. Again, this could not POSSIBLY be proven hours after the hire.

Well, I guess if it happens we'll both know. Until then, no one has resigned.



[ ] The hire will come from an FCS or SWAC program.
Not a single person said that. The only time this came up was when one of your leaders leaked it because he's a moron who likes attention, like you.






[ ] Steve Hale was asked to apply so "the fix would be in for a good ol' boy."
This sentence doesn't even make sense. We don't live in la-la land as you do dough boy.






(cajun4life, I'm not trying to pick on you with this post. It's just that your posts started this whole mess.)

This hire isn't impressive.

I will go back through my post, but I'm pretty sure I didn't say that the hire would be from the Swac just that one of the 5 finalist were from the Swac.

Harris was the "Florida" candidate I mentioned, just not by name.

[CajunRebel]

Just because someone alleges something... and it cannot be proven... does not make it "BS".

Yeah but it sure as hell doesn't make it true either. You can believe in all sorts of crazy things when you're not worried about basing your beliefs off evidence. Did you know that Ronald Reagan murdered a hooker in the 70's? How do I know? A source told me. Do you believe me?

Also, you're choosing to ignore the fact that lots of the "facts" from "insider sources" actually did turn out to be BS.

Earlier today I put out a simple poll. I didn't offer my opinion. I didn't care to offer it, and if 5-6 of the usual people hadn't decided to take personal pot shots at me I wouldn't have said a word. I was curious to see how UL fans as a whole would feel about this hire. I've got my answer.

It seems like most UL fans are pretty damn optimistic about this hire and our future. I'm out.

[CajunRebel]

This hire isn't impressive.

I will go back through my post, but I'm pretty sure I didn't say that the hire would be from the Swac just that one of the 5 finalist were from the Swac.

Harris was the "Florida" candidate I mentioned, just not by name.

If you feel like I misrepresented something you said I apologize. You've been fair to me so I want to make sure I'm fair to you.

Steve Hale aside, why don't you think this is a good hire?

[duggie85]

Ok, here we go.

First of all, When you and others allege everything as if it were fact and claim you're hearing all this from first-hand sources, you don't get to backtrack after the fact and say you were just "insinuating."

[X] Steve Hale was not going to be hired.

[?] Farmer was doing the hiring for this position.
Not a single person here claimed that. We all said he was sifting through resumes and sat in on the interviews. He admitted as much.





[ ] Hud wants Hale hired, and he'll leave the program if Steve Hale is not hired
Not a single person said this. Hud did want Hale, and I personally INSINUATED that his hiring of a second agent could mean he was looking else where. That could not be possibly proven anytime soon.

There was at least one other person here who said Hud would be on the first bus out of here if Hale wasn't hired.



[ ] A good ol' boy who knows Farmer and/or T-Joe will be hired.





[ ] The person who is hired will not have an impressive resume.




[ ] A host of RCAF members will resign if Hale is not hired.
This will happen, mark my words. Again, this could not POSSIBLY be proven hours after the hire.

Well, I guess if it happens we'll both know. Until then, no one has resigned.



[ ] The hire will come from an FCS or SWAC program.
Not a single person said that. The only time this came up was when one of your leaders leaked it because he's a moron who likes attention, like you.






[ ] Steve Hale was asked to apply so "the fix would be in for a good ol' boy."
This sentence doesn't even make sense. We don't live in la-la land as you do dough boy.






(cajun4life, I'm not trying to pick on you with this post. It's just that your posts started this whole mess.)

We were also told the board members who brought Hale to the table would speak up "soon."

I'm not Nostradamus, but this is what I see: It's time to move on and the sources who shared all the scoop keep their seat at the table....

[ManAboutTown]

Also, you're choosing to ignore the fact that lots of the "facts" from "insider sources" actually did turn out to be BS.

Doesn't matter how many times you say it. This still won't be true. Nothing was proven to be BS.

[jumboragncajun]

This hire isn't impressive.

I will go back through my post, but I'm pretty sure I didn't say that the hire would be from the Swac just that one of the 5 finalist were from the Swac.

Harris was the "Florida" candidate I mentioned, just not by name.

C4L.... It seems like the main thing that started this was your assertion that Farmer was putting "his boy" and hand picked the top 5. And we were gonna "USL" this thing.
In the presser Moncla said the "committee 5" narrowed down from 69 to 10 to 5.

So fair question: After it's said and done, Do you maintain your original assertion, or was Moncla lying?

I'm not making an opinion of Harris/Hale either way. Just wondering your thoughts on this conflicting information.

[cajun4life]

If you feel like I misrepresented something you said I apologize. You've been fair to me so I want to make sure I'm fair to you.

Steve Hale aside, why don't you think this is a good hire?

I looked at the schools that he listed on his resume and their budgets are not more impressive than ours. In fact direct contributions UL already exceeds both Ohio and USF. Now I haven't looked beyond the surface, but I just haven't been impressed.

He is another Greg Stewert IMO. Now that doesn't mean I'm not gonna give they guy a chance. I just refuse to believe he was the most impressive applicant.

With that being said, Farmer screened these applicants and I'm sure had a lot of sway in the process. It's obvious that Harris was his hire IMO.

[cajun4life]

C4L.... It seems like the main thing that started this was your assertion that Farmer was putting "his boy" and hand picked the top 5. And we were gonna "USL" this thing.
In the presser Moncla said the "committee 5" narrowed down from 69 to 10 to 5.

So fair question: After it's said and done, Do you maintain your original assertion, or was Moncla lying?

I'm not making an opinion of Harris/Hale either way. Just wondering your thoughts on this conflicting information.

I still stand by my sources who stated that Farmer screened all 69 applications. He hand picked who would he like to work with.

[cajun4life]

If you feel like I misrepresented something you said I apologize. You've been fair to me so I want to make sure I'm fair to you.

Steve Hale aside, why don't you think this is a good hire?

Since 2004 Ohio University has only had one major facility improvement and that was an $11 million dollar IPF.

At USF he was part of $66 million or so facility improvements. No where near the $500 million in pledged support. Now all we need is roughly $70 million to wrap up the rest of our major projects. But unlike Ohio's website that list where the money comes from, USF does not. They also don't state that it was through donations.

I have my doubts about Harris, but he will get my full support. Now if 3 years pass and there is still no Phase II renovation for football complete or near completion and no Tigue Moore completion. Then he will have been a flop. IMHO

[GeauxCajuns]

I have my doubts about Harris, but he will get my full support. Now if 3 years pass and there is still no Phase II renovation for football complete or near completion and no Tigue Moore completion. Then he will have been a flop. IMHO

Agree with this statement whole heartedly