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    Quote Originally Posted by reddot View Post
    _ We may have good shooters but great shooters is a stretch. _
    The ones I've seen are poor shooters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    _ Mike, we have great shooters. You mention shooting percentage. There is a big difference between hitting open shots due to good ball rotation or dribble penetration and getting the kickout for a good shot and having to jack up outside shots with a man in your face and the shot clock winding down due to no ball movement and a lack of execution of any type of offense. We've seen this for several years now. It's not new. Also, we know these guys can shoot. Shooting, in itself, is fickle sometimes and there are just stretches that you will go through where you lose confidence and your stroke and it sometimes takes a while to get it back. I think getting a better, more disciplined offense installed and executed would create more open looks with guys more likely to knock them down. Bureau is a streaky, but talented shooter who seems to have lost a lot of confidence.

    Do you really think that the players we have are not quick enough to defend the perimeter or they just haven't sold out enough on defense? I tend to think the latter is more true. I believe these guys have more than adequate quickness and I also think that we don't play the passing lanes as hard as we should. When we do play the passing lanes, we get way too many backdoors and the rotating defense is often late or not even in the area which creates all of the easy baskets you spoke of. I think that lack of defensive discipline and effort are to blame, not necessarily a lack of athleticism or talent.

    I wouldn't believe that a team like Duke is necessarily quicker than the Cajuns. However, they play much better defense and that is an attitude that is installed from their coach to the players. If they are beat by their man, they know they have help defense rotating to stop the penetration. Sometimes it only takes fundamental basketball to succeed.

    There are lots of teams that have accomplished their season goals with a lack of inside presence. I don't think that we need to have a big offensive presence, albeit it would be nice, but we just have to have post guys who have a role and understand it. Batiste should not be anywhere near the block trying to receive the ball. He should be setting picks and anticipating rebounds before a shot goes up. Villanova runs a 3 guard offense with little scoring production from their frontcourt but they have a role and they play well with it. Villanova succeeds quite nicely in the Big East, a conference known for its physical inside play. Having it is a luxury, not a necessity.


    Again, nobody was stating that we were going to see the next coming of Andrew Toney and Bo Lamar, he simply noted that if they were to get a quality head coach, this team could be picked to win the West next year. We did it 3 years ago with the core of this current team. _
    I have not seen a game this year (and will not until Lee is fired), but I saw enough last year to know Mike's analysis is spot on. We are not a good shooting team. We miss open shots all the time. Yeah the offensive sets are crap, but no one on this team is a good shooter...period. We also are one of the weakest team I have ever seen. This is shown by missing point blank shots in traffic and getting creamed on the boards. This team is not good at anything.

    Not only is Lee a horrific coach, but he is a poor recruiter. We have no floor leader and no difference makers. We may have a few nice pieces, but I do not think any coach in the SBC could win with our talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    _ I have not seen a game this year (and will not until Lee is fired), but I saw enough last year to know Mike's analysis is spot on. We are not a good shooting team. We miss open shots all the time. Yeah the offensive sets are crap, but no one on this team is a good shooter...period. We also are one of the weakest team I have ever seen. This is shown by missing point blank shots in traffic and getting creamed on the boards. This team is not good at anything.

    Not only is Lee a horrific coach, but he is a poor recruiter. We have no floor leader and no difference makers. We may have a few nice pieces, but I do not think any coach in the SBC could win with our talent. _

    Well, you are then basing your assumptions on what you saw last year and I haven't seen a team play as poorly as last year's team. To say that nobody on this team is a good shooter is a stretch. If we had viable offensive sets where we were able to create open shots, I think you'd see better production. At this point, its hard to argue but our shooting is not what is doing us in. We are shooting roughly the same percentage as our opponents and we shot over 40% tonight. What is killing us is our FT shooting. If you are basing your comments on last year, there were no open shots and guys had to try to create their own shots which proved worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reddot View Post
    _ We may have good shooters but great shooters is a stretch. _

    You're right, it probably is a stretch at this point. Shooting is not killing us right now like lack of execution and Free Throw Shooting are.

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    Your statements are off base. Other coaches in the sun belt would gladly take what we have. But of course you mentioned that you don't watch the team. Recruiting is not Roberts problem, it is what comes after that


    Quote Originally Posted by MetryCajun View Post
    I have not seen a game this year (and will not until Lee is fired), but I saw enough last year to know Mike's analysis is spot on. We are not a good shooting team. We miss open shots all the time. Yeah the offensive sets are crap, but no one on this team is a good shooter...period. We also are one of the weakest team I have ever seen. This is shown by missing point blank shots in traffic and getting creamed on the boards. This team is not good at anything.

    Not only is Lee a horrific coach, but he is a poor recruiter. We have no floor leader and no difference makers. We may have a few nice pieces, but I do not think any coach in the SBC could win with our talent.
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    Brad Boyd is the answer!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by JMVCAJUNS View Post
    _ Brad Boyd is the answer!!! _

    OH BOY!!! Just Win Baby!! U giys hve know idea how good BBoyd wud du her!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlappyCajun View Post
    _ I stand by my statements. And luckily for me, I don't stay up at night, because River Ranch Man questions my credibility. I will say it again and again. I have several, several friends who coach at all levels. From top to bottom, UL has more talent than any team in the state, with the possible exception of Louisiana Tech.

    You have guys guards and forwards who are all 6'6" and 6'7" and can really shoot it. It is the coaches job to get them to play at a higher level.

    I will say that the only position that I think we are really over matched is the point guard position. Other than that, we have more than adequate talent.

    Name one team that we lost to at home who you would describe as more talented.

    LSU has three better players, Bo Spencer, Tasmin Mitchell and Storm Warren. But after that there is a huge drop out.

    Talent does not equal wins. Talent plus getting guys to play hard plus having a good scheme equals wins. Sometimes just Talent and playing hard is enough. I think that is what happened Robert's first year. _
    Mobile must have the most talent in Alabama. You argument is ludicrous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIVERRANCHMAN View Post
    _ Mobile must have the most talent in Alabama. You argument is ludicrous. _

    No, your point is ludicrous. Actually, what is your point? His assertion that UL and the "talent" level has little to do with the overall record and that is his point. However, by your assertion, Lemoyne would have more talent that Syracuse right?

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    We are surely not without talent... but we have less talent than we all thought we did when some of these guys were signed. Most are athletic, but that does not equate to being a good/talented basketball player. Several are tall, quick and can jump... but cannot shoot, which is pretty basic for basketball. Others are tall, but can't rebound and have very little offensive ability.

    With that said, Coach Lee has done a TERRIBLE job of using what he has. They don't seem to be able to run an offense... can't block out... can't rebound consistently... and often don't defend. Oh, and they take TERRIBLE shots WAAAAAY too often. I'm not a basketball guru by any stretch, but that all seems to point to coaching... or a lack thereof.


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