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    I haven't even clicked on this thread much, because, frankly I think it's dumb that there is even a question on who to start.

    Haack should be our starting QB. I get it, we have some young and athletic running threats at QB. That's cool and all, but this team needs a fluid offense to be run with someone at the helm who has the smarts to command the offense and throw the deep ball when needed. Haack is that guy right now. End of story.


  2. #122

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    Could not agree more. Haack is the starter and Davis is the future in 2017.

    We do not need an "athlete" at QB. We are past that point in our program.


  3. #123
    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    I'm not getting into your debate with Boomer but I will mention that we are not outmanning or out-athleting anybody in the SBC. We may be on par with teams in terms of the athletes we have in our program but we are not superior in that regard to the other top teams in our conference.
    I disagree. We, on average, during Hud's time here, have brought in better athletes, comprehensively, than our conference opponents. There is no doubt about it. And it accounts for our success. The inability to dominate every single team has strictly been attributable to coaching. We have yet to operate well defensively... due strictly to coaching... regardless of what our coaching staff or people have said about inexperience, etc on defense. We sucked schematically on defense, to the point of being horrendous at times. It was ONLY our athletes that kept us anywhere near respectable on the defensive side of the ball.

    As for offense... we're killing it athletically compared to the rest of the SBC. We are not just better at the majority of positions... we are deeper. Our offensive philosophy has loved on vanilla... and since it won us some SBC contests... they've stuck with it to a fault.

    We've gotten athletes to be better athletes due to strength and conditioning... high energy and enthusiasm. And then we've added better recruiting. It is our coaching that has held us back. They've recruited well. And they've gotten the athletes to be solid athletes. They have coached to inch out victories in the SBC. And that style of game day execution will not beat a peaking SBC team with a smart coach... and it will never beat a P5 opponent.

    It is time in Hud's tenure to stop believing that raw excitement at practice and leading into Saturday can take great execution of vanilla and win more than 8 regular season games. It is time to pull out the gunslinger attitude... and pistol whip the SBC on the way to a shootout with a P5 program or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    I'm not getting into your debate with Boomer but I will mention that we are not outmanning or out-athleting anybody in the SBC. We may be on par with teams in terms of the athletes we have in our program but we are not superior in that regard to the other top teams in our conference.
    ----No debate with me on that---I see the Monroes with all 2 stars and they compete every year with all in the conference!!!

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    ----No debate with me on that---I see the Monroes with all 2 stars and they compete every year with all in the conference!!!
    They ran good defensive schemes... and they've had a good QB and one great WR. They have never been a better team than UL. They've beat giants with great ballsy coaching decisions. They had the balls to run man to man defenses and utilized the arm of a decent QB to take high risk/high reward shots at a better opponent. That is what you saw Boomer... not equivalent athletes. It can look the same... but it most certainly is not. Any given team may have a player or two that stands out above their complimentary athlete on the UL football team. But the SBC isn't as talented across the rosters as UL. It has been coaching... and it isn't even a close race. Coaching. Coaching. Coaching. Technical and intelligent use of athletes to demoralize the opponent. Hud hasn't deployed that weapon yet. It is the absolute component that has held us back from taking out an equal to better opponent. We went toe to toe with Florida when they weren't prepared for us... with plain vanilla... and it went to our heads. We either go 4-2-5 in man coverage... and start using a QB that can engage any and all other athletes on the field... or we win 7 or 8 games and beat no one of notoriety. But it is all up to coaching.

  6. #126

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    They ran good defensive schemes... and they've had a good QB and one great WR. They have never been a better team than UL. They've beat giants with great ballsy coaching decisions. They had the balls to run man to man defenses and utilized the arm of a decent QB to take high risk/high reward shots at a better opponent. That is what you saw Boomer... not equivalent athletes. It can look the same... but it most certainly is not. Any given team may have a player or two that stands out above their complimentary athlete on the UL football team. But the SBC isn't as talented across the rosters as UL. It has been coaching... and it isn't even a close race. Coaching. Coaching. Coaching. Technical and intelligent use of athletes to demoralize the opponent. Hud hasn't deployed that weapon yet. It is the absolute component that has held us back from taking out an equal to better opponent. We went toe to toe with Florida when they weren't prepared for us... with plain vanilla... and it went to our heads. We either go 4-2-5 in man coverage... and start using a QB that can engage any and all other athletes on the field... or we win 7 or 8 games and beat no one of notoriety. But it is all up to coaching.
    I have a hard time disagreeing with anything you said here. I do believe we have better athletes across the board. I do believe our coaching philosophy has been overly conservative for the most part, especially last year.

    I hope to see a significant improvement defensively this year, which should allow Coach Johnson the opportunity to take more risks. There is too much experience on the D staff this year for Hud to get overly involved in the game-plans each week, so we will some NFL type coverages with blitz packages etc. We will give up some big plays too, but hopefully not too many.

    Hud can spin all he wants about who will be the starter, but Haack will start against the Wildcats as long as he is healthy. Brooks is no Metenberger in the pocket either. He's got good wheels, and can move the chains if and when the pocket breaks down. He's not Broadway or Gauthier, but he's not immobile either. He is a polished passer who makes quick reads and gets the ball out quickly. And, as Hud stated, he's the best deep ball passer he's ever seen. We have a ton of weapons on offense and if they can spread it out, similar to how the Saints do it, I can see us doing some real damage this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickRick View Post
    I have a hard time disagreeing with anything you said here. I do believe we have better athletes across the board. I do believe our coaching philosophy has been overly conservative for the most part, especially last year.

    I hope to see a significant improvement defensively this year, which should allow Coach Johnson the opportunity to take more risks. There is too much experience on the D staff this year for Hud to get overly involved in the game-plans each week, so we will some NFL type coverages with blitz packages etc. We will give up some big plays too, but hopefully not too many.

    Hud can spin all he wants about who will be the starter, but Haack will start against the Wildcats as long as he is healthy. Brooks is no Metenberger in the pocket either. He's got good wheels, and can move the chains if and when the pocket breaks down. He's not Broadway or Gauthier, but he's not immobile either. He is a polished passer who makes quick reads and gets the ball out quickly. And, as Hud stated, he's the best deep ball passer he's ever seen. We have a ton of weapons on offense and if they can spread it out, similar to how the Saints do it, I can see us doing some real damage this year.
    WOW
    You folks are sounding like LSU, best athletes but poor coaching , so you want tooth pick back?

  8. #128

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickRick View Post
    I have a hard time disagreeing with anything you said here. I do believe we have better athletes across the board. I do believe our coaching philosophy has been overly conservative for the most part, especially last year.

    I hope to see a significant improvement defensively this year, which should allow Coach Johnson the opportunity to take more risks. There is too much experience on the D staff this year for Hud to get overly involved in the game-plans each week, so we will some NFL type coverages with blitz packages etc. We will give up some big plays too, but hopefully not too many.

    Hud can spin all he wants about who will be the starter, but Haack will start against the Wildcats as long as he is healthy. Brooks is no Metenberger in the pocket either. He's got good wheels, and can move the chains if and when the pocket breaks down. He's not Broadway or Gauthier, but he's not immobile either. He is a polished passer who makes quick reads and gets the ball out quickly. And, as Hud stated, he's the best deep ball passer he's ever seen. We have a ton of weapons on offense and if they can spread it out, similar to how the Saints do it, I can see us doing some real damage this year.
    As you know Rick, there are two things that will keep Safeties out of the box...Stretching the field vertically with the passing game and of Boomers favorites...a slip or bubble screen on the edge....recall the Boise was bringing Safeties the 1st half but when we went to the screen game in the 2nd half(too late I might add) suddenly we could run the football.....and I guarantee we are not going to completely abandon the read option....instead of 30% of our Offense it will probably be around 10%.

  9. #129

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickRick View Post
    I have a hard time disagreeing with anything you said here. I do believe we have better athletes across the board. I do believe our coaching philosophy has been overly conservative for the most part, especially last year.

    I hope to see a significant improvement defensively this year, which should allow Coach Johnson the opportunity to take more risks. There is too much experience on the D staff this year for Hud to get overly involved in the game-plans each week, so we will some NFL type coverages with blitz packages etc. We will give up some big plays too, but hopefully not too many.

    Hud can spin all he wants about who will be the starter, but Haack will start against the Wildcats as long as he is healthy. Brooks is no Metenberger in the pocket either. He's got good wheels, and can move the chains if and when the pocket breaks down. He's not Broadway or Gauthier, but he's not immobile either. He is a polished passer who makes quick reads and gets the ball out quickly. And, as Hud stated, he's the best deep ball passer he's ever seen. We have a ton of weapons on offense and if they can spread it out, similar to how the Saints do it, I can see us doing some real damage this year.
    As you know Rick, there are two things that will keep Safeties out of the box...Stretching the field vertically with the passing game and one of Boomers favorites...a slip or bubble screen on the edge....recall that Boise was bringing Safeties the 1st half but when we went to the screen game in the 2nd half(too late I might add) suddenly we could run the football.....and I guarantee we are not going to completely abandon the read option....instead of 30% of our Offense it will probably be around 10%.

  10. #130

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stabil123 View Post
    WOW
    You folks are sounding like LSU, best athletes but poor coaching , so you want tooth pick back?
    You said poor coaching, I said it was conservative. There's a difference. If you need dictionary to find that out, you can get them online, FOC.

  11. #131

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickRick View Post
    You said poor coaching, I said it was conservative. There's a difference. If you need dictionary to find that out, you can get them online, FOC.
    I don't want to be argumentative, but the jist of the dialogue (to me) sounds like coaching is the problem. In my humble opinion I disagree

  12. #132

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickRick View Post
    You said poor coaching, I said it was conservative. There's a difference. If you need dictionary to find that out, you can get them online, FOC.
    First I don't need a dictionary, my comments were based on the jist of the post that the problem was coaching. Everyone is entitled to theories opinion but not there own fact. Don't intend to be argumentative, but I've been a fan and supporter for a long, long time and these past few years have been a lot of fun, and a great time to be a Cajun fan, and notwithstanding most post here I appreciate and respect all involved for the success

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