Jekyll and Hyde

[zephyr]

_ The players do not play for Lee plain and simple. _

I would debate this comment. If you made it last year, I'd have said it already myself. However, while the improvement has not been seen in the Win-Loss column, I've seen a difference in how the majority of this team play for coach Lee. I've seen Gradnigo have his normal moments of complete laziness but I attribute a lot of that to his poor play that he's been trying to work himself out of. For the most part, I've seen a team that hasn't quit this year and continues to try to improve, at least on the court they do. I don't question the effort that is put forth but rather the focus and fundamentals that the players tend to lack at crucial times.

[BayouBaller]

_ Tulane improves to 4-7 for the year with wins over Penn State, George Mason, Alabama State and our Ragin Cajuns. The Green Wave earned their first SBC win last night after losses to UNO (by 1) and WKU (by 14).

Will we win another SBC game?

Three losses at home to date out of five played - including last night's in front of 8,893 empty seats (I thought there were more) hardly makes playing in the Cajun Dome any advantage for the home team.

While Lee is "kicking press room chairs" at the mention of the next game on the road against Louisville, he might want to think about the Gents from Centenary that come to the Dome after Christmas playing a much tougher schedule (and losing) to the likes of Marquette, Oklahoma, La Tech, Mississippi, and probably add Mississippi State (tonight).

P.S. Centenary is 1-0 in SBC play with a 94-84 win over ULM. It's been over two weeks since we scored 84 or more points. _

I guess I saw this one coming, huh?

[AstroCajun]

Really? I think it's past time to take the blinders off. I will attend the Uno game and maybe the Monroe game but otherwise I'm done with this coach.

I would debate this comment. If you made it last year, I'd have said it already myself. However, while the improvement has not been seen in the Win-Loss column, I've seen a difference in how the majority of this team play for coach Lee. I've seen Gradnigo have his normal moments of complete laziness but I attribute a lot of that to his poor play that he's been trying to work himself out of. For the most part, I've seen a team that hasn't quit this year and continues to try to improve, at least on the court they do. I don't question the effort that is put forth but rather the focus and fundamentals that the players tend to lack at crucial times.

igeaux.mobi

[CajunRed]

_ I would debate this comment. If you made it last year, I'd have said it already myself. However, while the improvement has not been seen in the Win-Loss column, I've seen a difference in how the majority of this team play for coach Lee. I've seen Gradnigo have his normal moments of complete laziness but I attribute a lot of that to his poor play that he's been trying to work himself out of. For the most part, I've seen a team that hasn't quit this year and continues to try to improve, at least on the court they do. I don't question the effort that is put forth but rather the focus and fundamentals that the players tend to lack at crucial times. _

I went to last night's game (probably my last for quite a while)... then read your comment this morning. I am not sure which team you are writing about, but please tell me you are not referring to the current UL team. I saw ZERO effort from Gradnigo... and vey little from Bureau who did not score AT ALL.

I saw great effort from Johnson (as usual) and Daigle.

Please let us know who you were writing about.

[zephyr]

_ I went to last night's game (probably my last for quite a while)... then read your comment this morning. I am not sure which team you are writing about, but please tell me you are not referring to the current UL team. I saw ZERO effort from Gradnigo... and vey little from Bureau who did not score AT ALL.

I saw great effort from Johnson (as usual) and Daigle.

Please let us know who you were writing about. _

Well, first I applaud you for your "guts" in reacting to a comment I made days ago, prior to the Centenary debacle. However, I was watching a team that had played much harder thus far in the year compared to last year. I also noted that there were still players like Gradnigo and Bureau that continue to unimpress me with their spirit and hustle. I did not watch the game but only listened to it on the radio. I turned it off with about 3 minutes to go and it definitely seems like they played like an uninspired bunch. If you want to call me out, why not do it when the comment is made instead of looking at it in hindsight?

[zephyr]

_ Really? I think it's past time to take the blinders off. I will attend the Uno game and maybe the Monroe game but otherwise I'm done with this coach.








igeaux.mobi _

Yes, Really. Why don't you read my comments above. It's pretty easy for many to sit and reflect on past comments because they can't or refuse to make an assertion on something at the current time. However, my assessment was based on games that I had seen up to the Centenary game as I didn't attend. Maybe you should have read them almost a week ago and commented then. However, you probably did but chose to refrain because maybe what was said made the smallest bit of sense. I don't think I assumed anything falsely and I only noted that compared to last year, this team has played much harder yet with no improvements in the Win-Loss column. I also noted that while they played harder, they also lack the chemistry of a winning team and the overall team concept that so many of the great programs have. Good job calling me out. There are no blinders on here and I have no illusions as to what is going on with this program.

[CajunRed]

_ Well, first I applaud you for your "guts" in reacting to a comment I made days ago, prior to the Centenary debacle. However, I was watching a team that had played much harder thus far in the year compared to last year. I also noted that there were still players like Gradnigo and Bureau that continue to unimpress me with their spirit and hustle. I did not watch the game but only listened to it on the radio. I turned it off with about 3 minutes to go and it definitely seems like they played like an uninspired bunch. If you want to call me out, why not do it when the comment is made instead of looking at it in hindsight? _

Touchy... aren't we. I didn't realize I was "calling you out". I only meant to reply to your comments. Didn't even look to see when they were made.

My comments, though, could have been made prior to last night. This is an uninspired, undesciplined, undercoached team... and I don't see any improvement from last year... record or otherwise.

[zephyr]

_ Touchy... aren't we. I didn't realize I was "calling you out". I only meant to reply to your comments. Didn't even look to see when they were made.

My comments, though, could have been made prior to last night. This is an uninspired, undesciplined, undercoached team... and I don't see any improvement from last year... record or otherwise. _

Not touchy. I just know how things go around here. People tend to be very reactive and emotional, as you've seen, rather than looking at things over an extended period of time. Some people tend to just view things in a much harsher and negative outlook than some and use this as a sounding board to express their frustrations. I get that but I also tend to look at things in what I hope are more objective and logical ways and try not to post based on emotions of bad losses like last night. However, my post was always directed towards comparing this year and last year directly. Last year, I was sick with how our team fell apart due to personalities by both players and coaches and the fact that the team quit on the coach as well. This year, although they were playing poorly (which I pointed out and did not debate), they seemed to be more resilient, play harder and have better leadership by some such as T. Johnson. My main issues with our play up to last night were more fundamental, lack of focus and just an undersized team that was always was an underdog on the boards. I also previously mentioned that this team did not have the attitude nor the chemistry to become a drastically better team and that inconsistency was simply going to be a part, if not the theme for this year.

[CajunRed]

_ Not touchy. I just know how things go around here. People tend to be very reactive and emotional, as you've seen, rather than looking at things over an extended period of time. Some people tend to just view things in a much harsher and negative outlook than some and use this as a sounding board to express their frustrations. I get that but I also tend to look at things in what I hope are more objective and logical ways and try not to post based on emotions of bad losses like last night. However, my post was always directed towards comparing this year and last year directly. Last year, I was sick with how our team fell apart due to personalities by both players and coaches and the fact that the team quit on the coach as well. This year, although they were playing poorly (which I pointed out and did not debate), they seemed to be more resilient, play harder and have better leadership by some such as T. Johnson. My main issues with our play up to last night were more fundamental, lack of focus and just an undersized team that was always was an underdog on the boards. I also previously mentioned that this team did not have the attitude nor the chemistry to become a drastically better team and that inconsistency was simply going to be a part, if not the theme for this year. _

Point taken. I withdraw the sarcasm from my comment.