Bustle, UL agree to extension through 2011 season

[wcd35]

Its another example of this administration getting by with the least amount of effort and ruffled feathers as possible. Don't let anyone tell you any different.

_ At some point a program has to cross an uncomfortable threshold.

Sometimes it is that single offseason recruiting period that forces the coach to recruit like there is no tomorrow. You simply cannot continue give a coach artificial buffers and expect him to coach like his back is against the wall.

I understand Bustle using this line of reasoning I just don't see how anyone can buy it. He was not going to be a lame duck recruiter he recruits to winning ALWAYS and he was up for renewal after next season. What's wrong with that? _

If you wanted the threshold to be crossed, it should have been with firing him last year. At this point, he had to be renewed. If you dont understand the situation or dont agree with the reasoning, then you just dont know the recruiting game very well. Recruiting is not a once a year type deal where we recruit our asses off to sign seniors. It is a multiple year process and this decision will keep that process going with future signees in years down the line. If he gets canned next year, then at least we have already started to sell the school to the class of 11.

Can him or extend him. I dont necessarily disagree with the opinion that he should have been fired, but that's not what we're discussing.

[snote]

hurt recruiting??

don't the cajuns have the most "committs" at this point in time, than ever before??

[wcd35]

_ hurt recruiting??

don't the cajuns have the most "committs" at this point in time, than ever before?? _

I believe so. Which shows that our staff is doing a better and better job of getting kids looking at this program early on. Many of the recruits have been here and heard from the coaches in their junior years.

[Turbine]

_ I believe so. Which shows that our staff is doing a better and better job of getting kids looking at this program early on. Many of the recruits have been here and heard from the coaches in their junior years. _

No it shows that having 1 year on your contract does not hurt recruiting. it hasn't

"If" you are saying the buffer year is to help recruit the 2011 class then it would all be undone with a firing after next year.

For the record I think Bustle can realistically get to 7 wins next season I just wish he and Walker thought so.

[ManAboutTown]

_ If you wanted the threshold to be crossed, it should have been with firing him last year. At this point, he had to be renewed. If you dont understand the situation or dont agree with the reasoning, then you just dont know the recruiting game very well. Recruiting is not a once a year type deal where we recruit our asses off to sign seniors. It is a multiple year process and this decision will keep that process going with future signees in years down the line. If he gets canned next year, then at least we have already started to sell the school to the class of 11.

Can him or extend him. I dont necessarily disagree with the opinion that he should have been fired, but that's not what we're discussing. _

We're all fully aware of how the process matriculates.. But what makes you think a flimsy extension with a "less buyout money" clause is going to change any perception of any recruit? If I were being recruited by the University, and I read the reports about how this is supposed to "help recruiting", I would be offended. How stupid do you think these kids and parents are? Especailly the local guys, which is supposed to be prime grazing ground. You don't think these people follow the news concerning the school that they or their child is going to give the next 4 years to? C'mon man..

[wcd35]

You can put it anyway you want and break it down as much as you want, but this is the way the recruiting game works. Ask anyone in the know. You cant recruit as a lame duck. This extension removes that tag and yes, he does have a chance to be extended again next year. This topic has been beaten up enough for me. Read Jay's blog and wait for BJ's response.

[CajunZ1]

Weatherbie recruited 3 star athletes as a "lame duck." it is a fact that UL's recruiting is bottom 10. The extension helps, but I don't expect it will make a significant change. Should we land a 3 star or 2( or a recruit who choses us over La Tech), then I'll change my mind.

That being said, the extension doesn't bother me much, especially since the University had the upper hand in the negotiations. It could be a decision that has minimal financial consequences should he be fired next season.
igeaux.mobi

[wcd35]

_ Weatherbie recruited 3 star athletes as a "lame duck." it is a fact that UL's recruiting is bottom 10. The extension helps, but I don't expect it will make a significant change. Should we land a 3 star or 2( or a recruit who choses us over La Tech), then I'll change my mind.

igeaux.mobi _

Stars dont matter everyone's beaten up that argument before. If you want to compare situations, then you would have to weigh the recruiting class at the end of the lame duck's tenure not before his last season since we're really contending that it affects the current juniors recruited. In that case, ULM has 5 recruits. All will be 2 stars if you want to look at that. Right now we have 9 and Pryer is a 3 star out of HS. Again stars suck because players we (along with Tech, ULM, etc) recruit arent evaluated at the level of top 100 players are.

I cant say much about the players signed by ULM but I know Rob Walker, Kevis Streeter and Huval will be solid if not exceptional players. Currently there arent many players offered or looked at by both us and Tech (Glen Coleman, Gavin Webster (not looking at him hard), Briscoe, Eric Thomas maybe just to name a few. And we arent necessarily on them hard or offered)

Could recruiting be better, of course, but it is pretty good right now. Again, I wasnt necessarily against canning Bustle so dont take it as he's winning every battle.

[Turbine]

... I wasnt necessarily against canning Bustle so dont take it as he's winning every battle. _

I was against canning him.

Since being forced to start over in 2007 I have maintained he deserved his 4th year.

What I am against is rewarding someone with a show of fake confidence.

[CajunZ1]

Stars matter when they're accompanied by significant FBS offers. Why do we not sign 3 stars that have other offers? Because we can't... Yet. I'll buy that stars are inexact and fallible. But it does mean something when a kid chooses almost any D-1A offer besides ours. It makes a difference.


igeaux.mobi

[wcd35]

_ Stars matter when they're accompanied by significant FBS offers. Why do we not sign 3 stars that have other offers? Because we can't... Yet. I'll buy that stars are an inexact and fallible. But it does mean something when a kid chooses almost any D-1A offer besides ours. It makes a difference.


igeaux.mobi _

No doubt, I definitely agree. And at times we havent won many of these battles. But at the same time, just because we sign a guy that wasnt offered doesnt mean we didnt get a standout player. It has happened a few times and I think our recruiting staff prides themselves on finding the hidden gems. Recruiting can always improve though.

[JBO70538]

What are we doing? Des and Fenroy were local kids that we all enjoyed watching. We can't even get local kids. We worry about attendance, but with all these JUCO kids we have no ties to them. Yes, if they are good they deserve to play somewhere but, at least if a kid's from within a 100 mile radius we should be able to land him. Parent, friends and everyone loves watching a kid grow right before our eyes. Instead of so many kids from out of state where family support will only come to Lafayette for Senior Day. Bustle and his staff can not land local kids and it is hurting our program. He should take a page from the guys at McNeese, they do a great job landing local talent and keeping fan support high.