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  1. #49

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    The real cap savings with Graham trade comes in 2016 and '17 -- $27M total (including $2M this year). Also, of course, $27M saved in cash.

    — Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) March 11, 2015

    So how are the Saints not saving any money? They are saving $2 Mil this season and $27 Mil in 2016-2017. Your math is fine, but you are missing a few facts. You are still paying more than what you would have paid Cameron Jordan on the open market for the same amount of production. As I stated, we will see what the Saints can do with the money, but that will extend for two more seasons in 2016-2017.
    You mean Jordan Cameron. Here's the thing...Jordan Cameron didn't have double digit touchdowns last year. Like I said...the money works out for the Saints long term (until Loomis buys big on this year's Jarius Byrd and spreads it out over 4 years), but for the short term it offers zero relief. The contract doesn't hurt Seattle one bit. They had gobs of cap space before and will have it afterwards.

  2. #50

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    You mean Jordan Cameron. Here's the thing...Jordan Cameron didn't have double digit touchdowns last year. Like I said...the money works out for the Saints long term (until Loomis buys big on this year's Jarius Byrd and spreads it out over 4 years), but for the short term it offers zero relief. The contract doesn't hurt Seattle one bit. They had gobs of cap space before and will have it afterwards.
    Yep, I will need it next year! Take a look at who is coming up next season for new contracts or extensions.

  3. #51

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    Yep, I will need it next year! Take a look at who is coming up next season for new contracts or extensions.
    Don't worry...the cap is gonna reach 160 next year. Wilson will have his pound of flesh.

  4. Default Re: Jimmy Graham

    I say the Saints trade their current first round pick for a bevy of midround picks for both this year and next, then select someone in the Seahawks first round slot.


  5. UL Football Re: Saints: Jimmy Graham

    I recall a couple of seasons ago the Jets showed how to defend Graham, and ever since I have seen teams rough him up a bit and he loses his a lot of his effectiveness.

    Interesting stat from Mike and Mike this morning on Graham that might have gone into this deal.

    Graham has been targeted nine times from the one yard line, and has eight touchdowns. What went wrong vs the Patriots?


  6. UL 1984, 1999 . . . . Re: Saints: Jimmy Graham

    Now if we can just get an underused Pewee from San Diego. Breese would love that big target, and he even blocks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumbeaux View Post
    I say the Saints trade their current first round pick for a bevy of midround picks for both this year and next, then select someone in the Seahawks first round slot.
    Agreed! Building like Belicheck

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Now if we can just get an underused Pewee from San Diego. Breese would love that big target, and he even blocks.
    I want pee wee

  9. #57

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumbeaux View Post
    I say the Saints trade their current first round pick for a bevy of midround picks for both this year and next, then select someone in the Seahawks first round slot.
    That's what Seattle did...gave up a glorified second round pick (31 is in that grey area) and backload later in the draft. It's all value. I think Seattle has a ton of 2nd day picks.

  10. #58

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    I recall a couple of seasons ago the Jets showed how to defend Graham, and ever since I have seen teams rough him up a bit and he loses his a lot of his effectiveness.

    Interesting stat from Mike and Mike this morning on Graham that might have gone into this deal.

    Graham has been targeted nine times from the one yard line, and has eight touchdowns. What went wrong vs the Patriots?
    Nope it was Seattle...on a Monday night...they showed the world that Jimmy is soft. Now they have him on their team...time to toughen him up. I want Lynch to pelt him with Skittles each time he misses a blocking assignment. I want Richard Sherman barking at him all day talking about "who is Jimmy?" I want Micheal Bennett to rush right at him and swim move him day after day until he breaks. You have to break a man...to build him back up. That was never going to happen in New Orleans. He was Jimmy in New Orleans. He was protected. Protection is gone. I want him battered and bruised...I want him like a steak that was left on the pit. Tough as nails. If anyone can do it...Pete Carroll can.

  11. #59

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    This trade could work for both sides... Doesn't have to be a winner and a loser. Different teams have different needs. If this deal secured the center spot with Unger and allows Lelito to slide to guard and we can cut Grubbs or Evans to free up huge cap numbers to gain defense help then it works. Have to look at big picture.


  12. #60

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    So who steps in as our receiving TE now? Are there players on the existing roster that can fill Graham's shoes? Can we get a trade for LG?


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