Cajun RedZone: JC DL Pryer Commits To Cajuns

[HoustonCajun]

_ No player that signs with a D1 team ends up 1 star, that includes our signings. I think out of HS he was a 3 star guy, but I'm not 100% sure. _

I'll bet with his size and speed and an LSU signee, he was at least a 4 star. Seems to me this is the kind of athlete we want recruited each year. And, he still has 3 years.

[zephyr]

_ I'll bet with his size and speed and an LSU signee, he was at least a 4 star. Seems to me this is the kind of athlete we want recruited each year. And, he still has 3 years. _

You are correct on the term "athlete". He has a BCS body and potential but like it was stated earlier, he is very raw. He is rawer than raw actually. He played one year of high school and one year of JC which he had 4 tackles. He needs a great coach to help him reach his potential. The problem I see is that we've never been able to develop really good DL who can really disrupt games. Hall Davis has a pro body and they have been steadily scouting him this year but he doesn't exactly blow you away with his stats. I hope we can get this kid to really develop into some sort of dominant player but I'm not betting on it.

[Just1More]

_ You are correct on the term "athlete". He has a BCS body and potential but like it was stated earlier, he is very raw. He is rawer than raw actually. He played one year of high school and one year of JC which he had 4 tackles. He needs a great coach to help him reach his potential. The problem I see is that we've never been able to develop really good DL who can really disrupt games. Hall Davis has a pro body and they have been steadily scouting him this year but he doesn't exactly blow you away with his stats. I hope we can get this kid to really develop into some sort of dominant player but I'm not betting on it. _

With his BCS size and speed... his rawness is what made him available to us. I am still stoked about the possibilities. With lineman, UL is taking big leaps of faith with the HS recruits we believe "might" develop into the physical requirements, while working on their transition from HS to D1 college ball. If UL can land a guy... despite the rawness factor... that has the physical attributes this kid does... I like the play. I like it a lot.

I hear what you're saying about not "betting on" him being a crown jewel DL... but I would definitely not bet against Pryer at UL. His rawness makes him a longshot prospect at a top BCS program. I do not believe it makes him much of a longshot, at UL, in the SBC. The measurements yet to be determined are coachability combined with sustainable affective football aggression. But... even major BCS programs don't clarify 80% of that attribute combination until a kid is playing for them.

[VObserver]

_ You are correct on the term "athlete". He has a BCS body and potential but like it was stated earlier, he is very raw. He is rawer than raw actually. He played one year of high school and one year of JC which he had 4 tackles. He needs a great coach to help him reach his potential. The problem I see is that we've never been able to develop really good DL who can really disrupt games. Hall Davis has a pro body and they have been steadily scouting him this year but he doesn't exactly blow you away with his stats. I hope we can get this kid to really develop into some sort of dominant player but I'm not betting on it. _

The problem with our DL is less lack of talent and more horrible scheme for the level and type of talent they have. We have finesse players trying to play a power scheme; it will never work.

[zephyr]

_ With his BCS size and speed... his rawness is what made him available to us. I am still stoked about the possibilities. With lineman, UL is taking big leaps of faith with the HS recruits we believe "might" develop into the physical requirements, while working on their transition from HS to D1 college ball. If UL can land a guy... despite the rawness factor... that has the physical attributes this kid does... I like the play. I like it a lot.

I hear what you're saying about not "betting on" him being a crown jewel DL... but I would definitely not bet against Pryer at UL. His rawness makes him a longshot prospect at a top BCS program. I do not believe it makes him much of a longshot, at UL, in the SBC. The measurements yet to be determined are coachability combined with sustainable affective football aggression. But... even major BCS programs don't clarify 80% of that attribute combination until a kid is playing for them. _

I believe we (VObserver, J1M and myself) are all correct. My point is that I'm not as sold that our coaching can equip him with the tools necessary to convert that rawness into a bonified DL in this league. Our DL have had no block shedding techniques that allow them to rush the QB or play the run. I'm less worried about him and more worried about the coaching. That's probably what I should have stated earlier.

[Rasta]

_ I believe we (VObserver, J1M and myself) are all correct. My point is that I'm not as sold that our coaching can equip him with the tools necessary to convert that rawness into a bonified DL in this league. Our DL have had no block shedding techniques that allow them to rush the QB or play the run. I'm less worried about him and more worried about the coaching. That's probably what I should have stated earlier. _

Equipping him with the tools is half the battle. The other half is going to be getting him off his tail and making him work, as well as a major attitude adjustment. The reports have been really bad, he's a total knucklehead. I'd be surprised if he makes it all 3 years that he has remaining. He's more likely to get booted off the team for doing something stupid. Let's hope somebody gets it through his head that he isn't entitled to anything, that he's going to have to earn it. LSU saw him as another Ricky Jean Francois, without near the talent.

[HoustonCajun]

_ I believe we (VObserver, J1M and myself) are all correct. My point is that I'm not as sold that our coaching can equip him with the tools necessary to convert that rawness into a bonified DL in this league. Our DL have had no block shedding techniques that allow them to rush the QB or play the run. I'm less worried about him and more worried about the coaching. That's probably what I should have stated earlier. _

Do you expect a DL coaching change this year? It is our weakest spot on the field and has been for years. G. Broussard was an OL player and I don't think ever coached the DL before coming to UL, but I could be mistaken. Is he a better coach at a different position? Our DL problems appear to be THE critical area that keeps us from getting to the next level, i.e. a bowl game.

[RaginDave]

We may take leaps on DL players, but I will tell you it pans out sometimes:

Hall Davis and Dererk Dean come to mind. Watch out DD will be a man among boys next season.

[zephyr]

_ We may take leaps on DL players, but I will tell you it pans out sometimes:

Hall Davis and Dererk Dean come to mind. Watch out DD will be a man among boys next season. _

Hall Davis turned into a better player than projected but he didn't exactly light the world afire last year with his stats. He and Terrel Richardson have prototypical bodytypes for the position but neither has done anything extraordinary to say the least. Derrick Dean was terrorizing those guys on the OL in the spring this past year and got thrown around once we entered real play this year. I am hopeful that he gets even better because he plays with a lot of heart and has a motor but I'll wait until the regular season starts before I agree.

[zephyr]

_ Do you expect a DL coaching change this year? It is our weakest spot on the field and has been for years. G. Broussard was an OL player and I don't think ever coached the DL before coming to UL, but I could be mistaken. Is he a better coach at a different position? Our DL problems appear to be THE critical area that keeps us from getting to the next level, i.e. a bowl game. _

I would have no idea. I have no problem with Gerald Broussard but Hudson is an OL coach so I would assume that Broussard is coaching the DL. That is not to bang on him because I think the problem is simply that we are not physical enough up front to throw potential blockers of them to make plays. We don't play as physical as the ASU's and Troy's teams and that is crucial to play against the spread offenses.

[Boomer]

_ I'll bet with his size and speed and an LSU signee, he was at least a 4 star. Seems to me this is the kind of athlete we want recruited each year. And, he still has 3 years. _

What happened to him with LSU??? Did he not get his grades or what happened for his going the JC route????

[VObserver]

_ I would have no idea. I have no problem with Gerald Broussard but Hudson is an OL coach so I would assume that Broussard is coaching the DL. That is not to bang on him because I think the problem is simply that we are not physical enough up front to throw potential blockers of them to make plays. We don't play as physical as the ASU's and Troy's teams and that is crucial to play against the spread offenses. _

G is a great position coach. My son had him when he was here before [as a WR coach] and found him to be excellent. It is not 'coaching' per se, it is defensive scheme. We do NOT have DL players who can play a power game. We DO have guys who have a chance to be good if we get imaginative and use many more slants, loops and other stunts up front. Mr. Suh can defeat triple teams and still be effective. No one we have is remotely close to that level, so we need to do something different.