Cajuns Football: A Slow Climb

[CajunRed]

I'm out of this conversion.

[Turbine]

_ I'm out of this conversion. _

Well you made some good points along the way.

I'm out too . . . have to go to work

[Parrott]

Arkansas State.

Keep in mind that every Sun Belt school but the Cajuns and ULM collect student fees. I believe FIU gets $21 of its $24 million for athletics from student fees. That's the main reason why Cristobal is the league's highest paid coach and his assistants are the highest paid combined in the conference.

Besides ULM, who is the other team with a lower budget?

igeaux.mobi

[Damon]

So I assume you have season tickets AND contribute a sizable amount to the athletic foundation.

My location dictates that I don't have season tickets. If I felt like there was a plan for my money that doesn't involve retaining a coach for 8 years to do what most coaches do in 2, I'm in.

That's the weakest, most played out comeback on the boards.

[CajunRed]

_ My location dictates that I don't have season tickets. If I felt like there was a plan for my money that doesn't involve retaining a coach for 8 years to do what most coaches do in 2, I'm in.

That's the weakest, most played out comeback on the boards. _

Then don't say money isn't a reason... if you don't give any. Can't complain from the sidelines.

[Hammer58]

_ Then don't say money isn't a reason... if you don't give any. Can't complain from the sidelines. _

I give of time and money so by your standards my complaints have merit. And I agree with much of what he has stated in arguing against your position and disagree with accepting mediocrity. As others have stated, even with the 3 BCS games, we should still be above average in conference and not lose games we are supposed to win against the bottom of our conference. After the better than expected start against the OOC schedule this year if we take care of business in conference we are looking at at least 7 wins. That still allows three conference losses. Add in the unexpected win against ASU and we are standing at 8 wins this year. That is what a good staff is supposed to achieve. That is what gets a coach extensions and raises, not mediocre 6-6 seasons year after year. And now we are already hearing the excuses for next year. The schedule is too tough. Well North Texas dominated this league for several years losing every OOC game and then running the table in conference. And now Troy is doing about the same. There is no reason we should expect less from our staff.

[Turbine]

Louisiana is a recROUXting hotbed.

Due to proximity UL should be able to do twice as good with half as much.


igeaux.mobi

[CajunRed]

_ I give of time and money so by your standards my complaints have merit. And I agree with much of what he has stated in arguing against your position and disagree with accepting mediocrity. As others have stated, even with the 3 BCS games, we should still be above average in conference and not lose games we are supposed to win against the bottom of our conference. After the better than expected start against the OOC schedule this year if we take care of business in conference we are looking at at least 7 wins. That still allows three conference losses. Add in the unexpected win against ASU and we are standing at 8 wins this year. That is what a good staff is supposed to achieve. That is what gets a coach extensions and raises, not mediocre 6-6 seasons year after year. And now we are already hearing the excuses for next year. The schedule is too tough. Well North Texas dominated this league for several years losing every OOC game and then running the table in conference. And now Troy is doing about the same. There is no reason we should expect less from our staff. _

We finished 6 and 6. According to your reasoning, everyone else on our schedule should be saying right now that they should have beat us begin we did not have a winning season... which means we would all be talking in circles.

Point is... not all teams that don't finish with a winning record are necessarily bad teams. If I'm not mistaken, K State almost won the Big 12 north.

[Hammer58]

_ We finished 6 and 6. According to your reasoning, everyone else on our schedule should be saying right now that they should have beat us begin we did not have a winning season... which means we would all be talking in circles.

Point is... not all teams that don't finish with a winning record are necessarily bad teams. If I'm not mistaken, K State almost won the Big 12 north. _

??????????? Thats got me dizzy right there.

So because expectations were low to start the season (more to do with our history of underperforming than the 3 BCS games) we should accept losing to two of the worst teams in conference this year? Pre-season polls and expectations mean nothing once play begins. this team showed they had talent to be better than pre-season expectations. I believe it was poor coaching that led us to underachieve once again and lose to two of the poorer teams in conference.

When we hired Ricky Bustle did we say we were looking for a coach to take us from bad to mediocre? At what point do we say mediocre is not good enough?

[champgolfpro]

_ Bustle has lead the slowest climb in the history of the NCAA. A worst record than Baldwin in year one. It took two years and three years to improve one game better than Baldwin. Back up in year one he had two NFL players on the team and did worse than Baldwin. It took 4 years to get 3 games better than Baldwin and after eight years he still has never been more than three games better than Baldwin. If its not the slowest climb in the history of the NCAA it real close. Bustle is only worth three wins, there is someone out there better than this for cheaper. _

for real......

BUSTLE: 3-9 year 1 12 games
4-8 year 2 12 games
4-7 year 3 11 games


BALDWIN:
2-9 year 1 11- games... dont see how thats a better record than Bustle, maybe if Bustle had an 11 game schedule in year 1 then maybe.

1-10 year 2 11 games.......THAT'S RIGHT 1-AND F'IN 10

3-8 11 games FOR A TOTAL OF 6 WINS TO BUSTLE'S 12 IN HIS FIRST 3 YEARS!!!!

Bustle took over a program that was in the toilet, hardly NO SCHOLARSHIPS, criminals on the team, Baldwin's ONLY recruit was Fred Stamps, who is a great kid! ....toss out Bustle's first 3 years and look what we have done the last 5...25 wins and a conference title in 2005, yeah i'm tired of the "bowl eligible" also!!!! but DON"T compare Bustle to Jerry "Toothpick" Baldwin. Baldwin would NEVER win more than 3 games...

can you say we are any better off if Baldwin would have been here for 5 years?? i can say we are A LOT better shape that we are in since Bustle took over. we have enough schlorships, the players are graduating, facilities have had a face lift and will get better in the next 2-4 years. we are a MID MAJOR it takes time!

so give the man a little credit! just DON'T compare him to Baldwin! that's not fair! Baldwin is the reason it's takes this long to turn it around!