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    Default Re: Lee must Go !

    In response to KACajun:

    First, the administration, coaches, players and fans were all given a voice in those stories. My job is to present the facts and allow the public to make up their own mind.

    No, keeping Lee hasn't "saved" the athletic program from probation. But the academic structure put in place in recent years has resulted in improved APR scores for men's basketball, and his departure might have resulted in player transfers, which influence APR scores.

    The basketball team needed to meet APR standards in both 2008-09 and 2009-10 to move out of the historical-penalty structure.

    If Lee and LeBato had been let go, there would have been at least two underclassmen who would have transferred in addition to Barr. I know of one that was good as gone. Losing more than two guys would have resulted in an APR score below 925 and "occasion three" penalties, which would have included a ban from postseason play.

    Don't think the NCAA means business? The Centenary men's basketball team and Chattanooga's football team were served with "occasion three" penalties. That means no postseason this year.

    If it happens again this year all of athletic teams at Centenary and Chattanooga would face a postseason ban.


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    I intended to go to chat today Josh, my loss.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Parrott View Post
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    Don't think the NCAA means business? The Centenary men's basketball team and Chattanooga's football team were served with "occasion three" penalties. That means no postseason this year.

    If it happens again this year all of athletic teams at Centenary and Chattanooga would face a postseason ban. _
    If those were major BCS type schools, no way NCAA would enforce it.

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    Ragin' Cajuns Re: Lee must Go !

    Quote Originally Posted by geo_cajun View Post
    _ If those were major BCS type schools, no way NCAA would enforce it. _
    No major BCS type school will ever HAVE such a problem; they'll find a way to get themselves declared 'resource limited' and get exempt from the APR penalties. Or, they'd just pay off profs to alter grades... oh wait! one already did that!

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    Neither is great but I have a point. What's worse?

    A) Allowing a student athlete to hold an entire Athletic Department hostage.

    B) Getting the players input on what kind of coach they like to play for, what kind of offense are they most comfortable in . .


    igeaux.mobi


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    Neither is great but I have a point. What's worse?

    A) Allowing a student athlete to hold an entire Athletic Department hostage.

    B) Getting the players input on what kind of coach they like to play for, what kind of offense are they most comfortable in . .


    igeaux.mobi
    How about c) Basing your paycheck off a bunch of 18-21 year olds.

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    Default Can't Fire Lee Yet!!!!!!

    I am constantly reading people's post that say "we must fire Lee after this performance," "the administration must not care because Lee is still our coach," "I don't understand why lee hasn't been fired," etc., etc. Am I wrongly informed that Lee's status as HC does affect our APR. I'm pretty sure we can't fire him. I have been posting this after every "fire Lee now" post I see yet the same people keep suggesting it. I think we just need to and have to suffer through the season. There are 2 scholarships on the line. Hold off your judgments on the administration's commitment to win until they are able to make a hire after the season. I will be sayin the same thing if we fail to make an impressive hire.

    If I am wrong about the APR thing please let me know so I can start calling for Lee's head too.


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    I for one don't understand this APR stuff. It sounds like we are being held hostage. Please someone enlighten me in layman terms. Other coaches are beling fired in midseason and I don't hear anything about APR.......


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    Default Re: Can't Fire Lee Yet!!!!!!

    Other college programs didn't stink it up with low multi-year APR scores that subjected the basketball team to occasion three historical penalties.

    Wait, Centenary's men's basketball team and Chattanooga's football team did and now are banned from the postseason this season. Another subpar year and their entire athletic program faces a postseason ban.

    The Cajuns will be fine once the low score drops off the multi-year average after this season.

    igeaux.mobi


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    Quote Originally Posted by Parrott View Post
    _ Other college programs didn't stink it up with low multi-year APR scores that subjected the basketball team to occasion three historical penalties.

    Wait, Centenary's men's basketball team and Chattanooga's football team did and now are banned from the postseason this season. Another subpar year and their entire athletic program faces a postseason ban.

    The Cajuns will be fine once the low score drops off the multi-year average after this season.

    igeaux.mobi _
    Let's see, we had thousands of people in the dome when Orien Greene was there (when we "cheated") and made the NCAA tournament...
    At the moment we have 142 people in the dome a night and have a realistic chance of going 5-25 this season.

    I'm down with cheating at this point if it puts as##s in the seats, but that just might be me. Let's go out and buy another player, this losing ______ is getting old.


    Oh I forgot, APR

  11. Default Re: Can't Fire Lee Yet!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Parrott View Post
    _ Other college programs didn't stink it up with low multi-year APR scores that subjected the basketball team to occasion three historical penalties.

    Wait, Centenary's men's basketball team and Chattanooga's football team did and now are banned from the postseason this season. Another subpar year and their entire athletic program faces a postseason ban.

    The Cajuns will be fine once the low score drops off the multi-year average after this season.

    igeaux.mobi _
    Are you saying that if Lee is fired the kids will stop going to class or what???I have never heard of having APR status based upon the retention of a coach---always thought it applied to the players only!!!! Somebody please clarify!!!!!

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    Ragin' Cajuns Re: Can't Fire Lee Yet!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    _ Are you saying that if Lee is fired the kids will stop going to class or what???I have never heard of having APR status based upon the retention of a coach---always thought it applied to the players only!!!! Somebody please clarify!!!!! _
    I think it has something to do with the coach being held responsible for the kids maintaining their grades. I know that may sound a bit ridiculous, but I think that's how the NCAA sees it, since we're talking about players on scholarship. To me, it's the player's responsibility, PERIOD. He fails a class, he loses his scholly and he's off the team. Then the scholly's available for someone else.

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