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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    I'm more than happy to call someone what they want to be called but I never understood what is so disrespectful about the word Lady.
    They probably just want to be called Ragin Cajuns like the men's programs are. I can see them wanting that. In my opinion they deserve to be called what ever they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJack55 View Post
    They probably just want to be called Ragin Cajuns like the men's programs are. I can see them wanting that. In my opinion they deserve to be called what ever they want.
    No one ever said they are not Ragin' Cajuns always have been.

    If the afore mentioned complaint had an ounce of logic they would get upset with just Cajuns.

    Red Herrings flying everywhere.

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    I still proudly display my Lady Cajuns T-Shirt from 1988.. back when the ball was still white.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    No one ever said they are not Ragin' Cajuns always have been.

    If the afore mentioned complaint had an ounce of logic they would get upset with just Cajuns.

    Red Herrings flying everywhere.
    I admit I know very little about the issue at hand (as for as the history of what they want to be called.) My point was that if they do not want to be called Lady Cajuns then we shouldn't call them that (sound familiar). We used to be USL but we don't like when people call us that especially public forums or the media. I also don't think anyone is being disrepectful by calling them Lady Cajuns because it's not as obvious of an issue as our name issue if that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJack55 View Post
    They probably just want to be called Ragin Cajuns like the men's programs are. I can see them wanting that. In my opinion they deserve to be called what ever they want.
    I 100% agree with your last sentence.

    I just don't get how "Lady Cajuns Basketball" is disrespectful but Ragin Cajun Women's Basketball" isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    I 100% agree with your last sentence.

    I just don't get how "Lady Cajuns Basketball" is disrespectful but Ragin Cajun Women's Basketball" isn't.
    Can't answer that one. Like I said above, I know very little about why they changed it. I don't know the reason for the name change, did they do it for marketing/image reasoning or for PC reasons?

    In my opinion Ragin Cajuns Womens Basketball just sounds better and more preofessional but again I don't know their reasons. T-Bine can help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJack55 View Post
    I admit I know very little about the issue at hand (as for as the history of what they want to be called.) My point was that if they do not want to be called Lady Cajuns then we shouldn't call them that (sound familiar). We used to be USL but we don't like when people call us that especially public forums or the media. I also don't think anyone is being disrepectful by calling them Lady Cajuns because it's not as obvious of an issue as our name issue if that makes sense.
    They never made an official proclamation distancing themselves from Louisiana royalty, it would have never flown.

    What they did do is quit investing in the side brand at a time when few cared and even fewer noticed what was happening.


    Martin Hall did it to save money when combined sales would easily have put UL over the million dollar mark years ago.

    If they complain about Lady Cajuns but are silent on Cajun Women it screams hypocrisy. Especially considering that the word "Women" is associated with a 50 year death penalty on competition at UL.

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    Turbine is largely correct here.

    I will say that this was part of a larger, national, political movement at the time. "Lady" was being scrubbed from many universities.

    As usual, stupid, asinine, childish politics ruined a good thing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJack55 View Post
    They probably just want to be called Ragin Cajuns like the men's programs are. I can see them wanting that. In my opinion they deserve to be called what ever they want.
    I dont think it has to do with respect, but it is common sense..... Why would you have to differentiate the softball team as lady cajuns, there is only one softball team on campus. Just say louisiana softball or Ragin Cajun softball, no need to differentiate or clarify as lady Cajuns.

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    The University first requested that the nickname be gender neutral back in 2000. Mike and Stef most definitely supported that, so as to differentiate their program from Yvette's. Since then, all coaches of female teams are on board with the gender neutral nickname. The University, has, in fact, put it in writing.

    Reality: Our women's teams don't want to be called Lady Cajuns. Period.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    The University first requested that the nickname be gender neutral back in 2000. Mike and Stef most definitely supported that, so as to differentiate their program from Yvette's. Since then, all coaches of female teams are on board with the gender neutral nickname. The University, has, in fact, put it in writing.

    Reality: Our women's teams don't want to be called Lady Cajuns. Period.
    A somewhat distorted "official" view of what really happened but it is what it is, thats fine.

    Ok then, to your stance, there is no such thing as gender neutral Jay, you had to mention gender twice to make your point.

    So instead of a gender neutral outcome, gender has to be inserted unnecessarily into the story as descriptors to make it understandable. As you just showed. A ten letter title once covered it all.

    Yes Lady Cajuns was once a brand, now its just a descriptor that saves space and explanation.

    As has been shown time and time again, traditions at UL are lost in as little as four years. According to you its been 14 years. This simple turn of phrase should not make anyone feel threatened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 31Ragin97 View Post
    I dont think it has to do with respect, but it is common sense..... Why would you have to differentiate the softball team as lady cajuns, there is only one softball team on campus. Just say louisiana softball or Ragin Cajun softball, no need to differentiate or clarify as lady Cajuns.
    UL Softball could certainly survive without gender mention.

    However, -to date- no broadcast, post game interview or in depth article has ever attempted to to so.

    Not sure why that would be desirable either.

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