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    Ragin' Cajuns Re: Defensive Holding Call ?

    I was sitting on the other side of the field and did not see the play, but talked to someone afterwards who said he saw the holding basically happen right in front of him. I have no reason to doubt him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    _ Maybe in highschool. All college QBs should know that rule. It isn't like I fault him for the kneejerk attempt under fire... but afterwards... he shouldn't have been looking at the ref with a "what did I do wrong?" He should have known. Today, Riley Dodge is asking if that footage can be stricken from replay. _
    When Jake did it as a freshman... he almost had to be ejected he was arguing so much with the officials...

    After the game he explained that the play was legal at Tuerlings...

    apparently they ran that

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOCajun View Post
    _ I was sitting on the other side of the field and did not see the play, but talked to someone afterwards who said he saw the holding basically happen right in front of him. I have no reason to doubt him. _
    It happened inches from me... it was basically an uncathchable Pass intereference call - holding... you can't touch the receiver like that... but I often see it not called.

    That was a break.

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    Ragin' Cajuns Re: Defensive Holding Call ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pirogue View Post
    _ It happened inches from me... it was basically an uncathchable Pass intereference call - holding... you can't touch the receiver like that... but I often see it not called.

    That was a break. _
    You may call it a break, but the right call should never have to be considered that way. I just thank GOD the ref saw it at all!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirogue View Post
    _ It happened inches from me... it was basically an uncathchable Pass intereference call - holding... you can't touch the receiver like that... but I often see it not called.

    That was a break. _
    I have no doubt the ref called defensive holding rather than pass interference. In fact, he stated the infraction was before the pass was thrown when announcing the penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    _ I have no doubt the ref called defensive holding rather than pass interference. In fact, he stated the infraction was before the pass was thrown when announcing the penalty. _
    It was "holding" when he called it, but I think...

    He said that to quiet the two North Texas defensive backs screaming in his face that the ball was "uncatchable" and it was...

    Had they not influenced him that way he may have called Pass interference, had he done that... then after a conference the flag would have likely been "waived off"

    Refs, or at least I've never seen it, waive off a penalty after they throw a flag before making a call because of something a player says...

    I feel like he threw the flag for P.I. realized it was uncatchable from the North Texas players, and changed the call before he made the signal to holding [which happened... the receiver was held]

    That was a break.... the planets were lining up.

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    UL Football Re: Defensive Holding Call ?

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    _ I was standing on the sideline in front of the play and he had his jersey from the back before the ball was thrown. I was surprised the official saw it, they usually don't call it. The infraction happened before the pass. _
    Saw the same thing. My Uncle who is a ref(official) was sitting with us and he called it from the stands, just prior to the ref throwing the flag. It is very nice watching a game with him.

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    Default Re: Defensive Holding Call ?

    I was on the sideline. There was a hold, although I think the official originally was going to call pass interference.


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    Was it a ticky tack call, sure, but come on, how many of those have gone against us over the years, hell, 2 come to mind off the bat in the Ohio incident in 2007 with the fumble that never was on our game tying drive, and last year against K-State with the fumble we recovered only to have a false start flag thrown after the play. If I think hard enough, I know I could come up with many more because it always seemed like those calls went against us, and its nice to see a call or 2 break our way. Also, like I said earlier, remember they called a very ticky tack Pass Interference call on us during UNTs first drive on 3rd down that gave them a first down, they later got a field goal on that drive. That call didn't go back our way all game long until our last drive when we got a similar call and we turned our opportunity into 7 points, its not like the refs awarded us a TD, UNT still had chances to stop us and didn't.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffGuy84 View Post
    _ Was it a ticky tack call, sure, but come on, how many of those have gone against us over the years, hell, 2 come to mind off the bat in the Ohio incident in 2007 with the fumble that never was on our game tying drive, and last year against K-State with the fumble we recovered only to have a false start flag thrown after the play. If I think hard enough, I know I could come up with many more because it always seemed like those calls went against us, and its nice to see a call or 2 break our way. Also, like I said earlier, remember they called a very ticky tack Pass Interference call on us during UNTs first drive on 3rd down that gave them a first down, they later got a field goal on that drive. That call didn't go back our way all game long until our last drive when we got a similar call and we turned our opportunity into 7 points, its not like the refs awarded us a TD, UNT still had chances to stop us and didn't. _
    yeah might have been, but what about the personal foul and the none delay of game call. With all that said, I don't think we should have been in that position to start with

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    Quote Originally Posted by raginWaldo View Post
    _ i think the refs did alot of "oops i missed that call or blew this call....i'll make it up with this call" (blows whistle and throws flag) lol

    but some were legitamite even though they were blowing calls left and right. _

    Remember, this is the Sun Belt Conference. Both the officials and the conference are a joke.

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