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    Quote Originally Posted by raginWaldo View Post
    _ and ive seen what Brad can do for a game against a good Arkansas State team.

    honestly i dont think its Masson that beat Kansas State, it was the defense. just like the reason we beat North Texas was because of the Defense, not the Quarterback... _

    What Brad did against ASU last year is exactly what Masson has done several times this year. He managed that game against ASU although he made some very costly mistakes such as the pick 6 that almost crushed our comeback chances, which Masson hasn't done yet this year. He ran the ball 27 times for just over 2 yards a carry and only got any passing attack going on the final drive. Oh yeah, he also had a guy named Tyrell Fenroy and Jason Chery helping him out also. It's always easier to holler for the backup when the starter struggles.

    BTW, the defense did make some big plays causing some turnovers and capitalizing on them but I also say that the defense failed us as we gave up 450 yards of offense and the front 7 was manhandled all game. Granted, they bucked up and got a stop or two when they needed it but they did their part in staying on the field too long also.

    What you're not referencing is the grit that Masson is showing on late drives when the team needs a score. He DID do it against K-State on the final drive and he did do it against NT..Period. It's hard to disagree with that and he did it often times with his arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raginWaldo View Post

    honestly i dont think its Masson that beat Kansas State, it was the defense. just like the reason we beat North Texas was because of the Defense, not the Quarterback... _
    I think last night is a good example of what Jay Walker means when he says "Defense doesn't win championships, defense puts you in a position to win."

    This is over simplistic but last night the defense kept UL in the game and in a position to win through McGuire's spark and Masson's finish.

    Geaux Cajuns

  3. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    _ What Brad did against ASU last year is exactly what Masson has done several times this year. He managed that game against ASU although he made some very costly mistakes such as the pick 6 that almost crushed our comeback chances, which Masson hasn't done yet this year. He ran the ball 27 times for just over 2 yards a carry and only got any passing attack going on the final drive. Oh yeah, he also had a guy named Tyrell Fenroy and Jason Chery helping him out also. It's always easier to holler for the backup when the starter struggles.

    BTW, the defense did make some big plays causing some turnovers and capitalizing on them but I also say that the defense failed us as we gave up 450 yards of offense and the front 7 was manhandled all game. Granted, they bucked up and got a stop or two when they needed it but they did their part in staying on the field too long also.

    What you're not referencing is the grit that Masson is showing on late drives when the team needs a score. He DID do it against K-State on the final drive and he did do it against NT..Period. It's hard to disagree with that and he did it often times with his arm. _
    Brad also had a lot more weapons at his disposal in that game. Namely the best RB in Cajun history!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364 View Post
    _ Brad also had a lot more weapons at his disposal in that game. Namely the best RB in Cajun history! _

    Hence my first paragraph. I don't think the ASU game last year and this year's team are equitable in terms of comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    _ What Brad did against ASU last year is exactly what Masson has done several times this year. He managed that game against ASU although he made some very costly mistakes such as the pick 6 that almost crushed our comeback chances, which Masson hasn't done yet this year. He ran the ball 27 times for just over 2 yards a carry and only got any passing attack going on the final drive. Oh yeah, he also had a guy named Tyrell Fenroy and Jason Chery helping him out also. It's always easier to holler for the backup when the starter struggles.

    BTW, the defense did make some big plays causing some turnovers and capitalizing on them but I also say that the defense failed us as we gave up 450 yards of offense and the front 7 was manhandled all game. Granted, they bucked up and got a stop or two when they needed it but they did their part in staying on the field too long also.

    What you're not referencing is the grit that Masson is showing on late drives when the team needs a score. He DID do it against K-State on the final drive and he did do it against NT..Period. It's hard to disagree with that and he did it often times with his arm. _
    Zeph,

    I agree with everything you say here except for the defense failing us. They where on the field almost the entire first half. You can't expect your D to perform great when you don't get first downs. Defense won that game last night. I don't think there is any question about that. FYI, 80+ snaps is alot of plays. NT had over 80 plays last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrappDaddy View Post
    _ Zeph,

    I agree with everything you say here except for the defense failing us. They where on the field almost the entire first half. You can't expect your D to perform great when you don't get first downs. Defense won that game last night. I don't think there is any question about that. FYI, 80+ snaps is alot of plays. NT had over 80 plays last night. _
    I think you are partly correct on that. The defense was forced out on the field too long and that takes a huge toll. All in all, I think they did well in the final stretch... although some of it came at the hands of unforced errors by NT. As time passes, I am just happy it resulted in a W.

    Our offense has to sustain drives and I think... now... that is going to require some adjustments. I just do not understand how a whole host of receivers cannot get to open spots and cannot hang onto the ball. Sooner or later, defenses just pin their ears back and sell out on disruption and people with the wrong color jerseys start showing up too often in your backfield. Guys have to start catching passes.

    The first thing I would do this week is get all of the hands people into the eye doctor. It must be that their eyesight has deteriorated since we signed them. They cannot possibly have that bad of hands. I know a former UL receiver that could not drop anything thrown near him. The only thing that was required is for a QB to throw it within 5 yards of him. He wasn't a heralded athlete out of highschool... he just caught passes.

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    No offense to zephyr, but im starting to think if he started throwing alot more interceptions Zephyr would still stick up for Masson and say that the receivers just weren't getting open and he had to throw it somewhere... there's gotta be a personal connection to the guy or something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by raginWaldo View Post
    _ No offense to zephyr, but im starting to think if he started throwing alot more interceptions Zephyr would still stick up for Masson and say that the receivers just weren't getting open and he had to throw it somewhere... there's gotta be a personal connection to the guy or something. _


    LOL! I would take you more seriously but all I can do is picture you in that goofy Waldo getup....All jokes aside, there is absolutely no connection. I've never met the young man except for at fan day. As a matter of fact, I was posturing for Gautier to be the starter ALL of preseason. I think he will be that good. However, you base your opinion because McGuire stepped in for a part of ONE series. Yes, he ran the ball hard for a grand total of 14 yards and didn't even average 4 yards per carry and he should be the starter? He didn't attempt one pass and was removed on passing downs. That tells me something. You are saying that our starter should be removed because he had a poor game and the backup came in and was responsible for 14 total yards! Did the running game improve when McGuire entered the game? Yes, however I think that would be les of a factor if he was named the starter. Don't forget, it was Masson who engineered the game winning drive and made the plays when they needed to be made.

    Masson had at least 5 drops by his receivers. That would have given him a 18-29 stat line and at least 30-50 more yards. He threw a TD and ran for a TD. The lack of offense, to me, is not on him but the lack of adjustments that are being made by the coaching staff. He has played well all year considering the competition and has looked worse because of his receiving corps. Think what you will. If you are simply looking at stat lines, there's not a lot that I can say that will change your minds so have at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrappDaddy View Post
    _ Zeph,

    I agree with everything you say here except for the defense failing us. They where on the field almost the entire first half. You can't expect your D to perform great when you don't get first downs. Defense won that game last night. I don't think there is any question about that. FYI, 80+ snaps is alot of plays. NT had over 80 plays last night. _

    Crapdaddy, I understand the point and I agree as that has been the case up until now. However, the Defense gave up a large bulk of its yards in the 1st and second quarters before it was on the field too long. If they were to stop NT on some of those drives, they would do themselves a favor and get off the field. We forced a whopping two punts all night. The fact is, we allowed NT to drive the field all night and could do little.

    The key to this defense is getting the front 4 playing aggressive and penetrating the line on both running and pass plays. I feel very strongly about that. The problem with Saturday night was they did not do this. On running plays, the NT linemen were able to get into the second level and get some direct blocks on the LB's which is why you saw us gashed up the middle. Like I said, NT is going to spread you out and run with those two good RB's they have with mismatches up the middle and they did exactly that. Dunbar averaged 6 yards a carry. That can't keep happening or we will not sniff conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    _ Crapdaddy, I understand the point and I agree as that has been the case up until now. However, the Defense gave up a large bulk of its yards in the 1st and second quarters before it was on the field too long. If they were to stop NT on some of those drives, they would do themselves a favor and get off the field. We forced a whopping two punts all night. The fact is, we allowed NT to drive the field all night and could do little.

    The key to this defense is getting the front 4 playing aggressive and penetrating the line on both running and pass plays. I feel very strongly about that. The problem with Saturday night was they did not do this. On running plays, the NT linemen were able to get into the second level and get some direct blocks on the LB's which is why you saw us gashed up the middle. Like I said, NT is going to spread you out and run with those two good RB's they have with mismatches up the middle and they did exactly that. Dunbar averaged 6 yards a carry. That can't keep happening or we will not sniff conference. _

    You start two DT at 267 lbs. and 5'11" and 285 lbs. and expect to stop anyone? Our interior line was easily blocked and our middle LB was taken out of many plays which was why they ran at will. If we don't do something to shore up the interior D Line, we are going to finish with a dissappointing season.

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