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    Quote Originally Posted by NuForce View Post
    Statements like this really bother me.

    Look at the upper echelon of college football. Do you really believe the top 10 college football teams are there only because they have so much talent? I believe the "Coaches" have far more influence on winning than do "Good Players". Without a good coaching staff you can have the best players in the country and not win. All you have to do is look 50 (Mile's) to the east to see a team with all the "Good Players" a coach would ever want as a prime example of that. In fact, they lost the last 4 out of 6 bowl games. Do you really believe their losses were solely due to not having enough "Good Players"????

    It's been my experience that "Good Coaches" create "Good Players" in all sports. Not the other way around. Talented athletic players are a nice luxury for "Good Coaches". A truly "Good Coach" can take the talent he has and create "Good Players".

    Do really you think Hud turned our program around solely because he received an immediate influx of talented players? Bustle never won more than 6 games and never had a winning season as a head coach. Do you think that was because he just lacked "Good Players"?

    Simply put, Hud is one of those coaches that can take an ordinary player and turn him into a better player. I just hope we can give Hud the resources to find and keep "Good Coaches". With "Good Coaches" you'll have "Good Players".
    The teams that get the top talent...and have a reasonably of sound mind and body coach (Les Miles can do it...anyone can)...are the teams at the top of the standings at year end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuForce View Post
    ....Bustle ... never had a winning season as a head coach.
    2005

    6-5

    SBC Co-Champions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    ----Spoken with the humility that only coaches know!!----Well I guess you can include former coaches in that number!!! lol
    Poor players make ex-coaches???

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    2005

    6-5

    SBC Co-Champions
    2002 3–9
    2003 4–8
    2004 4–7
    2005 6–5
    2006 6–6
    2007 3–9
    2008 6–6
    2009 6–6
    2010 3–9

    Thank you CajunNation, I stand corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    The teams that get the top talent...and have a reasonably of sound mind and body coach (Les Miles can do it...anyone can)...are the teams at the top of the standings at year end.
    You think Notre Dame won the Music City Bowl because they had more talent? Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tank View Post
    Good Players make Good Coaches !!
    Speaking of players, this is a risky time of year to shuffle the deck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by California Cajun View Post
    Speaking of players, this is a risky time of year to shuffle the deck.
    Though, this is the time of year when it usually happens. It will work itself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuForce View Post
    You think Notre Dame won the Music City Bowl because they had more talent? Really?
    Did you see the Notre Dame quarterback? Did you see the LSU quarterback. Did you see the ref blow the LSU touchdown to end the half.

    Quit proving your ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuForce View Post
    Statements like this really bother me.

    Look at the upper echelon of college football. Do you really believe the top 10 college football teams are there only because they have so much talent? I believe the "Coaches" have far more influence on winning than do "Good Players". Without a good coaching staff you can have the best players in the country and not win. All you have to do is look 50 (Mile's) to the east to see a team with all the "Good Players" a coach would ever want as a prime example of that. In fact, they lost the last 4 out of 6 bowl games. Do you really believe their losses were solely due to not having enough "Good Players"????

    It's been my experience that "Good Coaches" create "Good Players" in all sports. Not the other way around. Talented athletic players are a nice luxury for "Good Coaches". A truly "Good Coach" can take the talent he has and create "Good Players".

    Do really you think Hud turned our program around solely because he received an immediate influx of talented players? Bustle never won more than 6 games and never had a winning season as a head coach. Do you think that was because he just lacked "Good Players"?

    Simply put, Hud is one of those coaches that can take an ordinary player and turn him into a better player. I just hope we can give Hud the resources to find and keep "Good Coaches". With "Good Coaches" you'll have "Good Players".
    I think the point was valid. You can coach your tail off and lose with bad players.

    If you recruit, you'll win if you're a decent coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Did you see the Notre Dame quarterback? Did you see the LSU quarterback. Did you see the ref blow the LSU touchdown to end the half.

    Quit proving your ignorance.
    So you're going to equate the whole game on one call and go on to compare Zaire to Jennings but, not mention the rest of the two teams statistically? Just look at the stats of the game. Jennings may never be a great quarterback because he currently lacks down field vision which makes him a single target quarterback. I truly believe a coach like Hud can turn an average quarterback like Jennings into something special. Zaire is really not that much better Jennings. He's average at best and has himself stuck in a two quarterback system. If he was that good he'd have the job all to himself. All you have to do is look at the statistics.

    LSU total yards rushing: 285
    ND total yards rushing: 263

    LSU total yards passing: 151
    ND total yards passing: 186

    So looking at total offense both teams were equal. My point was that LSU has far more talent overall which should have well made up for their deficiencies at quarterback. I guess in your world Leonard Fournette having 143 yrd game has nothing to do with talent.

    LSU's defense didn't show up probably because of Chavis leaving and they lost to a far inferior team. Again, the root cause for that loss is not talent it's coaching. LSU's defense swept the super talented Johnny Football both years he started. Believe me, A&M had the better quarterback.

    The only thing I'm sorry about is that we got off topic. The whole point of my thread is to talk about the UL Coaching staff situation. I'm looking forward to see what adjustments he's going to make with the new defensive assistant coaches he will pick up.

    It's sad that fellow Cajun fans have to resort to name calling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuForce View Post
    2002 3–9
    2003 4–8
    2004 4–7
    2005 6–5
    2006 6–6
    2007 3–9
    2008 6–6
    2009 6–6
    2010 3–9

    Thank you CajunNation, I stand corrected.
    I had to laugh when reading the records above. Things were so bad in 2004 that we had to stay positive by talking about our improvement because our winning percentage had increased from the record in 2003. Man it was hard to drink that Kool-aid. Life is so much better now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuForce View Post
    Statements like this really bother me.

    Look at the upper echelon of college football. Do you really believe the top 10 college football teams are there only because they have so much talent? I believe the "Coaches" have far more influence on winning than do "Good Players". Without a good coaching staff you can have the best players in the country and not win. All you have to do is look 50 (Mile's) to the east to see a team with all the "Good Players" a coach would ever want as a prime example of that. In fact, they lost the last 4 out of 6 bowl games. Do you really believe their losses were solely due to not having enough "Good Players"????

    It's been my experience that "Good Coaches" create "Good Players" in all sports. Not the other way around. Talented athletic players are a nice luxury for "Good Coaches". A truly "Good Coach" can take the talent he has and create "Good Players".

    Do really you think Hud turned our program around solely because he received an immediate influx of talented players? Bustle never won more than 6 games and never had a winning season as a head coach. Do you think that was because he just lacked "Good Players"?

    Simply put, Hud is one of those coaches that can take an ordinary player and turn him into a better player. I just hope we can give Hud the resources to find and keep "Good Coaches". With "Good Coaches" you'll have "Good Players".
    And most of those coaches will tell you they win with good players. Coaches can't just create great QB's and they can't just turn average Joe's into terrific receivers etc... Obviously, coaching plays a big part in the success of a team but you have to have the players to do it also. There are so many intangibles that go into a great season and building a program and HUD brought that here. Hud won with mostly Bustle players. The year before we won 3 games. HUD gets here and we win 9. It wasn't necessarily because HUD found some way to improve the players in one short off season. I think most in the program would attribute that turnaround to many things, not just better coaching although it started with him and his staff.

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