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    Over the last 3-4 weeks, have things changed much from this thread?

    https://forumeus.com/...201#post760201

    It seems there was an incredible amount of optimism in that thread from the very same posters lamenting a current lack of initiative on the part of the University in this thread.

    Have things spun that completely out of control? In such a short time?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    Another angle is that if we have to beg to be part of CUSA, maybe we need to continue our path of winning and improving facilities and make them want us.

    Has anyone ever seen a true all out public campaign begging a conference to invite them? I'm not being sarcastic here. I've never seen it. I would happily admit I was wrong if someone can provide the evidence of another school in the NCAA on their knees begging a conference for membership and it working.
    La Tech did this for a decade in order to receive a CUSA invite.

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    First of all:
    I am not too concerned what TCU did (or what BYU and Cincy are doing now) to get into the Big XII (UL is NOT at a level near any of these 3 programs, obtw)

    With that said, I am sure that although they (the Admin?) did not hold any "press conferences," the fan base/boosters/donors/non-admin types did NOT sit on their hands and rely on the respective College Admins to JUST "work behind the scenes...."

    OF COURSE the Admin MUST work behind the scenes. But that is NOT where the effort ends (and by the way, I do not believe OUR - the UL Admin - is doing ALL THEY CAN - i.e., the FULL COURT PRESS that most of us want and expect - "behind the scenes").

    We - the Fan Base/boosters/ donors/motivated local press - have to do our part by at least creating our own positive press (hopefully in confidential conjunction with an Admin who, if they are serious, would be "working behind the scenes" and thus could not lead that portion of the FULL COURT PRESS).
    This has to be a coordinated group effort.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    Another angle is that if we have to beg to be part of CUSA, maybe we need to continue our path of winning and improving facilities and make them want us.

    Has anyone ever seen a true all out public campaign begging a conference to invite them? I'm not being sarcastic here. I've never seen it. I would happily admit I was wrong if someone can provide the evidence of another school in the NCAA on their knees begging a conference for membership and it working.
    Latex

    Too easy

    Z

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    Did our font change? I have been out the loop for a while and did we switch to Comic Sans? Or is it just Monday morning insanity?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeebart21 View Post
    Latex

    Too easy

    Z
    So we blast everything they do and then want to follow in their footsteps? I have a little more pride than that Z.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunhawk View Post
    Did our font change? I have been out the loop for a while and did we switch to Comic Sans? Or is it just Monday morning insanity?
    Good, it's not just me

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    Yes, we stayed in almost continuous contact for over a decade with C-USA. After missing out on an invitation in 2003-04 (that invitation went to UTEP), we had a serious come to Jesus meeting internally as to the direction of our program.

    We hired a consultant who told us why we missed out, and what we needed to do to be attractive the next time around, and we started working on those things. In Louisiana, stuff moves at a snails pace...and I'd say particularly in the north, as we have historically been treated as a political afterthought in this state anyway...but we got things rolling.

    We had a fine line to walk. Staying in contact with CUSA presidents and schools and building those relationships, while at the same time not burning bridges with the WAC membership. It was no secret that after UTEP left, we were no longer a good fit for the "Western" athletic conference. Kommander Karl couldn't persuade UL-Lafayette nor Ark State nor North Texas to come over, so we just continued to bide our time. I think it worked out okay for us.

    I will also say, as a strong critic of my own University, I believe we learned our lesson about sitting on our rears like we did in the early 2000s and thinking we'll just slide in somewhere else. For schools like Tech, and UL-Lafayette, we have to be continually improving on our OWN accord...because otherwise, we will get no help from Baton Rouge, and other conferences won't give us a thought.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckK3 View Post
    Yes, we stayed in almost continuous contact for over a decade with C-USA. After missing out on an invitation in 2003-04 (that invitation went to UTEP), we had a serious come to Jesus meeting internally as to the direction of our program.

    We hired a consultant who told us why we missed out, and what we needed to do to be attractive the next time around, and we started working on those things. In Louisiana, stuff moves at a snails pace...and I'd say particularly in the north, as we have historically been treated as a political afterthought in this state anyway...but we got things rolling.

    We had a fine line to walk. Staying in contact with CUSA presidents and schools and building those relationships, while at the same time not burning bridges with the WAC membership. It was no secret that after UTEP left, we were no longer a good fit for the "Western" athletic conference. Kommander Karl couldn't persuade UL-Lafayette nor Ark State nor North Texas to come over, so we just continued to bide our time. I think it worked out okay for us.

    I will also say, as a strong critic of my own University, I believe we learned our lesson about sitting on our rears like we did in the early 2000s and thinking we'll just slide in somewhere else. For schools like Tech, and UL-Lafayette, we have to be continually improving on our OWN accord...because otherwise, we will get no help from Baton Rouge, and other conferences won't give us a thought.
    At least you had "a" plan.....
    We do not SEEM to have one.

    Whoever claims that we cannot learn from others (including Tech), and create our own way, after considering others' Lessons Learned and related strategy, is "hoping for change...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdncz View Post
    At least you had "a" plan.....
    We do not SEEM to have one.

    Whoever claims that we cannot learn from others (including Tech), and create our own way, after considering others' Lessons Learned and related strategy, is "hoping for change...."
    We do not "seem" to have one because you and a lot of detractors on this board want to make it "seem" like we don't have one. What the hell do you think the CST deal is part of? What do you think the ongoing master plan is part of? What do you think the coaches salaries being the highest in the belt are part of? What do you think the adidas deal is part of? We are creating our own way.

    I'll give some of you this. It may not be the plan YOU think we should have, but let me know which one of you have been athletic directors and have been part of conference realignment.

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