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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    (quote Cajun T)
    In most cases this is correct, but it wasn't until Oklahoma State upset Oklahoma and UL lost to App. State that the Armed Forces Bowl was completely out of the question for UL. And this will be the case most seasons. But there is no guarantee that the New Orleans Bowl will be available to UL in certain years unless they are the SBC champion. So there are no assurances that will be the case every season either. At that point, is the Go Daddy or Camellia Bowl more attractive then the Bowls in Houston or Dallas?

    What does Okla. State winning have to do with the Armed Forces Bowl? The Armed Forces bowl is contracted to the AAC (Houston) and Army who did not qualify.

    If Okla St. loses, the Cactus becomes open. And we would have had a different school in New Orleans as a result.

    The bid went to Pitt out of the ACC. You think we were going to get chosen before them if we had beaten App???
    Of course we would have jay. And If we didn't, it would be because farmer and t-joe are holding us back

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    No. That isn't what I'm saying.

    My blog was in reference to football bowl games. I suggested the CUSA tie ins aren't great by any stretch of the imagination. I never suggested CUSA wasn't a good move. I never brought up other sports. This blog had everything to do with bowl games.

    And, you proved my point with your comment about striving to be better.

    If you are in the Sun Belt Conference, you're either playing in a Big 6 Bowl or New Orleans is your best bet. There is no in between.

    Same is true for CUSA. You're either in a big six bowl or you're in the best CUSA bowl possible.

    Same is true for the MAC. You're either in a big six bowl or you're in the best MAC bowl possible.

    Same is true for the AAC. You're either in a big six bowl or you're in the best AAC bowl possible.

    Same is true for the MWC. You're either in a big six bowl or Las Vegas is the best you're going to do.

    We are (currently) in the Sun Belt. Unless we go 12-0 or in some years 11-1, there's no place better than New Orleans.

    You would be AMAZED how, after four years, many fans still don't get it.

    About 75% of the people I talked to this season said that they wanted to go to a "Better Bowl" this year. I asked "what better bowl are you talking about?" You want to sit out in the freezing rain in Montgomery or Mobile? So where does that leave us for next year. What if we go 10-2? Will fewer go to the New Orleans Bowl? Is the New Orleans Bowl tied in with the Big West again next year? I guess the best possibility is playing a "name" opponent within 6 hours driving distance in an afternoon or night game.
    Or get into CUSA....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    (quote Cajun T)
    In most cases this is correct, but it wasn't until Oklahoma State upset Oklahoma and UL lost to App. State that the Armed Forces Bowl was completely out of the question for UL. And this will be the case most seasons. But there is no guarantee that the New Orleans Bowl will be available to UL in certain years unless they are the SBC champion. So there are no assurances that will be the case every season either. At that point, is the Go Daddy or Camellia Bowl more attractive then the Bowls in Houston or Dallas?

    What does Okla. State winning have to do with the Armed Forces Bowl? The Armed Forces bowl is contracted to the AAC (Houston) and Army who did not qualify.

    If Okla St. loses, the Cactus becomes open. And we would have had a different school in New Orleans as a result.

    The bid went to Pitt out of the ACC. You think we were going to get chosen before them if we had beaten App???
    Would a 10-2 Cajuns team with a win over LaTech be chosen over a 6-6 Pitt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Would a 10-2 Cajuns team with a win over LaTech be chosen over a 6-6 Pitt?
    It wouldn't be a slam dunk. If the nola bowl didn't exist and we were looking at 4 straight go daddy or camelia bowls, that's one thing. But that's the whole point. The nola bowl is great for us and risking being left out when we could've accepted would just be bad business IMO.

    And before you say nola would give time, don't think that Karl wouldn't stick it to us if he had the chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uslol'dog View Post
    Has this idea been brought up yet..

    How about we play a regular season "home" game in the Superdome against a non-conference opponent, or hell, a conference opponent. Maybe we would bring more than 18-20k..sure are nicer accommodations
    ----I have been pushing for a S Miss game for about 20 years---the dome is central and would be great!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    It wouldn't be a slam dunk. If the nola bowl didn't exist and we were looking at 4 straight go daddy or camelia bowls, that's one thing. But that's the whole point. The nola bowl is great for us and risking being left out when we could've accepted would just be bad business IMO.

    And before you say nola would give time, don't think that Karl wouldn't stick it to us if he had the chance.

    If we don't go to the New Orleans Bowl, who will pay the bills for the other Sun Belt Conference teams?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Would a 10-2 Cajuns team with a win over LaTech be chosen over a 6-6 Pitt?
    Nope

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    I am saying that people run their mouth, post their name, and then don't expect that name to get to the people they are trashing.

    If Joe blow said you are a piece of crap and then you get an email from joe blow wanting a meeting, how would you react? Welcome with open arms?
    It's not about people who post their names on here. Many of the more vocal detractors of the administration are well known and their views and comments are quite public. Why do you need to meet with people who have made their points very clear? Busy people such as Scott and T-Joe are better served hearing from people whose opinions they do not already have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcitsh View Post
    It's not about people who post their names on here. Many of the more vocal detractors of the administration are well known and their views and comments are quite public. Why do you need to meet with people who have made their points very clear? Busy people such as Scott and T-Joe are better served hearing from people whose opinions they do not already have.
    You mean whose opinions they share? Let's be real, it's easy to stand in front of like minded people and talk about what your plans are because they will all agree. But dynamic leaders, businessmen, and politicians cn stand in front of detractors and convince them that their positions and plans are justified or well thought out.

    T-Joe and Farmer don't want to meet with their detractors. They want to listen to the guys who worship every step they take. Or at least that is what it seems like to fans who are critical of their leadership.

    I have expectations for both academics and athletics. If I were to grade T-Joe and Farmer respectively T-Joe would get a C+ and Farmer would get a C- based off of my expectations. Some would give them both A+ others would give D's. I'd give my reasons why I would rate each the way I do, but I'm turning in for the night. Otherwise I'd have a J1M thesis going on.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    I spent the next hour discussing the future of UL athletics and found a respect for Scott that many of you will never have for him. I'm nobody special. I don't give any more than anyone else here. Yet, one email got me an hour long conversation with him.
    Since you're so successful at long conversations following a single email, and are a proud sunshine pumper that never has an unkind word for our admin, I volunteer you to send another solitary email that will get you another impressive hour with Scott, explaining his take on the SBC, CUSA, and what mind blowing (yours) effort that's being put into getting T-Joe in front of every member president, and how we've all but sealed the deal?

    As for those that think you have to wait for the UAB stuff to resolve before getting in front of the CUSA presidents... that's the kind of plan that makes your enemies defeat you.

    Anyhow, you've been selected. Go find out stuff and report back. You are correct. Sending Girl Scouts out to sell cookies is pretty smart. You don't send angry men. Now get in touch with Scott and sell some cookies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    (quote Cajun T)
    In most cases this is correct, but it wasn't until Oklahoma State upset Oklahoma and UL lost to App. State that the Armed Forces Bowl was completely out of the question for UL. And this will be the case most seasons. But there is no guarantee that the New Orleans Bowl will be available to UL in certain years unless they are the SBC champion. So there are no assurances that will be the case every season either. At that point, is the Go Daddy or Camellia Bowl more attractive then the Bowls in Houston or Dallas?

    What does Okla. State winning have to do with the Armed Forces Bowl? The Armed Forces bowl is contracted to the AAC (Houston) and Army who did not qualify.

    If Okla St. loses, the Cactus becomes open. And we would have had a different school in New Orleans as a result.

    The bid went to Pitt out of the ACC. You think we were going to get chosen before them if we had beaten App???
    Oklahoma State became another bowl eligible team, Filling another bowl spot for the Big 12 that would have been open to another conference program. The AAC is the bowl tie this year and in 2017, so they chose a mediocre Pitt team with no bowl tie in. Yes, I think there was an outside chance that a 9-3 UL team that has 3 losses to two to TOP 25 RPI teams and a Tech team in the top 45 RPI. A great chance no, but no shot based upon what?

    And when the New Orleans Bowl has to take the SBC Champion and that team isn't UL, they won't be in the New Orleans Bowl. That bowl is not assured to UL as well. The best bowl as long as we are in the SBC, of course? Who said otherwise? It's the only bowl game worth attending in the SBC alignment period.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    Otherwise I'd have a J1M thesis going on.
    Hey! You forgot to add, "Not that there's anything wrong with that!".

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