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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Would you guys stop the NFL QB nonsense? If anything is a fictitious argument regarding who we should start at QB, it's this oddball backup QB to NFL logic.

    I still, very strongly, maintain that the QB next year will be a direct result of the philosophy... not the QB that "wins the combines". The staff knows what they've got in QB skills. And precisely due to the lack of Saturday experience, there is no clear #1. It will be all about which philosophy (hence, set of skills) they lean toward. I absolutely guarantee you that if they went to a pass heavy strategy, the job belongs to Brooks. If they're addicted to the stereotypical dual threat option, Brooks will probably lose the starting role. I'm not marginally confident in this prediction. I'm actually 99.7% confident that's exactly the way the QB contest will be resolved. To say that "the best QB" will be discovered through a process that is irrelevant to the philosophy the coaches lean toward... is nonsense. I wouldn't be surprised if the coaches get quagmired and do the ole two QB system in our first few games, to use real games to choose the ultimate QB. And again, it will be highly highly predicated on an offensive philosophy.

    And keep this in mind, coaches are becoming addicted to dual threat QBs. Addicted. It isn't because it's the best solution in many cases. It's just the easiest. You don't have to have as great of an OL if you have a solid dual threat QB.


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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    Name me one freshman that has beaten out a 2 year incumbent starter who was winning? I can only think of 1.
    You are correct. Brooks standing on the sidelines was 92% due to a successful starter and 8% due to offensive philosophy. Only an injury was taking the clipboard out of his hand. And I could not mount a strong argument against that. You tried. But in reality, TB never legitimately lost the start. And you agreed.

    Next year's QB will be decided by the direction the staff takes the offense... unless someone gets injured or smokes a blunt between now and then.

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    Maybe if his passing skills Dwarfs the run pass guy they will adjust their philosophy.


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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Maybe if his passing skills Dwarfs the run pass guy they will adjust their philosophy.
    Dwarfing is a tall order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    It might boil down to do you prefer s player like Brian Mitchell or jake Delhommne. Those two were exceptions of course. But they both were solid citizens. Nixon needs to grow up fast. Hack needs to prove the USA debacle was a one time thing.
    ----Very Objective, insightful, and fair post!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    You are correct. Brooks standing on the sidelines was 92% due to a successful starter and 8% due to offensive philosophy. Only an injury was taking the clipboard out of his hand. And I could not mount a strong argument against that. You tried. But in reality, TB never legitimately lost the start. And you agreed.

    Next year's QB will be decided by the direction the staff takes the offense... unless someone gets injured or smokes a blunt between now and then.
    Exactly and that philosophy will determine if we stay the course or start Haack. It is that simple. If Haack is not the starter out of Spring he will transfer, then start wherever he goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    Kurt Warner. HOF QB started 1 year at UNI after riding the pine for 3 years.
    Let's ignore that he was undrafted and was passed over by 32 NFL teams after UNI. Let's ignore the 3 years in arena football and 1 year in Europe. Guess those NFL GMs and coaches can't evaulate talent to pass over a future HOF QB

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    It might boil down to do you prefer s player like Brian Mitchell or jake Delhommne. Those two were exceptions of course. But they both were solid citizens. Nixon needs to grow up fast. Hack needs to prove the USA debacle was a one time thing.
    I'm not saying (and neither are you) that we're choosing between a Jake or a Brian... but that is a good argument around what I'm saying. Jake would beat out Brian in a pass oriented offense... and Brian would beat Jake in a dual threat QB offense. I strongly believe "philosophy" will decide our next QB. In today's contests, if Brian and Jake were competing, Jake would never see the field, unless Brian got injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel02 View Post
    Let's ignore that he was undrafted and was passed over by 32 NFL teams after UNI. Let's ignore the 3 years in arena football and 1 year in Europe. Guess those NFL GMs and coaches can't evaulate talent to pass over a future HOF QB
    I didn't want to go that route but the Kurt Warner story will NEVER be duplicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    I'm not saying (and neither are you) that we're choosing between a Jake or a Brian... but that is a good argument around what I'm saying. Jake would beat out Brian in a pass oriented offense... and Brian would beat Jake in a dual threat QB offense. I strongly believe "philosophy" will decide our next QB. In today's contests, if Brian and Jake were competing, Jake would never see the field, unless Brian got injured.
    If Hud had a QB battle between Brian and Jake in their prime he would start Mitchell based on his philosphy (which has proved to work) Nothing against Jake.

    And if this is the case then Nixon or Davis has the advantage, period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunJack55 View Post
    If Hud had a QB battle between Brian and Jake in their prime he would start Mitchell based on his philosphy (which has proved to work) Nothing against Jake.

    And if this is the case then Nixon or Davis has the advantage, period.
    The difference in what you are stating and this argument is that both Mitchell and Jake have completed their careers. So people will accept that statement.

    But it is the very best comparison to use. Now who would y'all rather have as a QB? Jake or Mitchell. That is what we will get this Spring with Haack vs whoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    The difference in what you are stating and this argument is that both Mitchell and Jake have completed their careers. So people will accept that statement.

    But it is the very best comparison to use. Now who would y'all rather have as a QB? Jake or Mitchell. That is what we will get this Spring with Haack vs whoever.
    It doesn't matter who the fans want. We don't have all the information and know these players like Coach Hud does. That is why he is being paid $1 Million a year.

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