Meanwhile, in Natchitoches

[Turbine]

That is exactly my point. I knew Bustle wasn't the guy when we lost to McNeese.

I was never on board with Bob Marlin, I don't like the model that we used for this basketball hire. It is a different animal all together than football. I knew that we were in trouble when the JJ Thomas/Raymone Andrews situation happened. These were his players, and when he lost the locker room I began having my doubts.

I honestly think that last season will end up being an outlier and not the norm. We have just been consistently inconsistent throughout his tenure.

Raymone Andrews was a Robert Lee kid.

[Boomer]

So, you want to compare Hud to Marlin? Looks like the Cajuns will be playing Northwestern State in football next year. Anyone on this board worried that the Cajuns might lose that game? Really? No one? Why not? The basketball team lost to them.

......Well if the subject is losing to poor teams ........ we were fortunate to beat a Ga State that I think is the worst rated team in the country!!! Yea I just checked and they are ranked LAST.....we won by 3!!!

[CrazyCajun]

Robert Lee's restart was forced upon him and he lost the ship.

Marlin's restart was highly influenced by the preexisting hostage situation.

And if the next coach needs a restart , he will find/create the situation needed. Were you in those meetings? Or is that what was said to justify the restarts? If we don't give the next guy will it be grounds for a lawsuit because didn't award the next coach the same chance as the others... Sound familiar? Marlin hired the guy that leading the hostage takeover, to me that's on him. Lee brought in a ton of transfers that failed, then was given a chance to right the ship and couldn't. I'm still not sold on marlin but I'm certainly not saying he isn't the guy... But I don't buy the whole this is year 3 stuff. It's year 5, he isn't going anywhere for at least 2 years no matter what IMO so I guess we will see. The administration better be careful allowing the coaches to open Pandora's box to hit the restart button.

[CajunRage]

That is exactly my point. I knew Bustle wasn't the guy when we lost to McNeese.

I was never on board with Bob Marlin, I don't like the model that we used for this basketball hire. It is a different animal all together than football. I knew that we were in trouble when the JJ Thomas/Raymone Andrews situation happened. These were his players, and when he lost the locker room I began having my doubts.

I honestly think that last season will end up being an outlier and not the norm. We have just been consistently inconsistent throughout his tenure.

Bustle never had that successful season that he could build on. Marlin had a 23-12 season losing 7 in conference. We all think this team has the talent to run thru the conference with only 2 or 3 losses. If that happens, we end up with a better record than last year. It could not happen, and we play .500 ball in conference. He should be on the hot seat. I'll carry the torch with you. Gotta see how the season plays out. He goes to the dance back to back and then we look at next season in it's entirety.

I know one thing about marlin's coaching style. You are going to play team basketball and this me-me-me crap doesn't fly. It's real easy to agree to it when marlin is sitting on these teenagers' couches recruiting them. It's different when you get to campus. I fully expect Marlin to miss on some guys. I watch my 14 year old nephew play and all of their games are polluted ball hogs and me-guys. A good program gets 5 of those stars and some have to become role players. 1 out of 5 won't like that and if they aren't the guy, they will become a cancer and need to be disposed of.

[Turbine]

And if the next coach needs a restart , he will find/create the situation needed. Were you in those meetings? Or is that what was said to justify the restarts? If we don't give the next guy will it be grounds for a lawsuit because didn't award the next coach the same chance as the others... Sound familiar? Marlin hired the guy that leading the hostage takeover, to me that's on him. Lee brought in a ton of transfers that failed, then was given a chance to right the ship and couldn't. I'm still not sold on marlin but I'm certainly not saying he isn't the guy... But I don't buy the whole this is year 3 stuff. It's year 5, he isn't going anywhere for at least 2 years no matter what IMO so I guess we will see. The administration better be careful they all the coaches to open Pandora's box to hit the restart button.

Marlin's bad hire was a separate situation.

Robert Lee's program was the one held hostage by players he couldn't get rid of because of the AD induced purge that put UL on the APR brink.

Marlin just inherited the I can do what I want attitude brought on by Robert's situation.

[CrazyCajun]

Marlin's bad hire was a separate situation.

Robert Lee's program was the one held hostage by players he couldn't get rid of because of the AD induced purge that put UL on the APR brink.

Marlin just inherited the I can do what I want attitude brought on by Robert's situation.

No, the bad hire brought in bad guys then grabbed a couple that were here and turned on him... But it was his hire. If some of you can't step away and see that's it sure does seen like a lot of excuses, free passes, yeah buts then I don't think we will agree on anything. If we don't perform this year, who wants to take bets it's shawn long's fault and not bob marlins? Robert lee and bob marlin coach a sport with more winning tradition at this school than any new hire of any other sport combined, a sport that is the easiest to turn around... Keep that in mind. People are saying he is great X's and O's coach, people are saying he finally has the talent, I don't think a little consistency is too much to ask. If we want more than 3k people to show up at games, stop crapping the bed. The price of cajun entertainment has gone way up across the board, people are gonna spend it wisely.

[CajunRage]

No, the bad hire brought in bad guys then grabbed a couple that were here and turned on him... But it was his hire. If some of you can't step away and see that's it sure does seen like a lot of excuses, free passes, yeah buts then I don't think we will agree on anything. If we don't perform this year, who wants to take bets it's shawn long's fault and not bob marlins? Robert lee and bob marlin coach a sport with more winning tradition at this school than any new hire of any other sport combined, a sport that is the easiest to turn around... Keep that in mind. People are saying he is great X's and O's coach, people are saying he finally has the talent, I don't think a little consistency is too much to ask. If we want more than 3k people to show up at games, stop crapping the bed. The price of cajun entertainment has gone way up across the board, people are gonna spend it wisely.

Considering that the program had to be started over after the death penalty, I'd argue that softball and baseball hold more winning tradition than basketball.

[Turbine]

No, the bad hire brought in bad guys then grabbed a couple that were here and turned on him... But it was his hire. If some of you can't step away and see that's it sure does seen like a lot of excuses, free passes, yeah buts then I don't think we will agree on anything. If we don't perform this year, who wants to take bets it's shawn long's fault and not bob marlins? Robert lee and bob marlin coach a sport with more winning tradition at this school than any new hire of any other sport combined, a sport that is the easiest to turn around... Keep that in mind. People are saying he is great X's and O's coach, people are saying he finally has the talent, I don't think a little consistency is too much to ask.

I totally think Marlin messed up on the hire.

Marlin and Bustle have the same problem, motivating for the "you should win" games.

Then again that is Hud's specialty and even he APPdicated the throne for a day.

[CrazyCajun]

Considering that the program had to be started over after the death penalty, I'd argue that softball and baseball hold more winning tradition than basketball.

They do now, and the next softball and baseball coaches will deal with that but those coaches built that. Yvette started it but the lotiefs built it bigger. Tony is cajun baseball, neither of them needed a reboot. Death penalty or not, we have winning tradition for marlin to show recruits, that you can and will win here. I don't see how you can continue to point out all his accomplishments but tried to justify his failures that they aren't in fact his own. The death penalty will never change the fact of what was once accomplished here. We go from looking good one game to a city park req team the next. Consistency, marlin isn't young, he has been around. Maybe he needs to go back to getting less talented players who are willing to listen or have a different approach that is easier to be consistent at.

[CajunRage]

They do now, and the next softball and baseball coaches will deal with that but those coaches built that. Yvette started it but the lotiefs built it bigger. Tony is cajun baseball, neither of them needed a reboot. Death penalty or not, we have winning tradition for marlin to show recruits, that you can and will win here. I don't see how you can continue to point out all his accomplishments but tried to justify his failures that they aren't in fact his own. The death penalty will never change the fact of what was once accomplished here. We go from looking good one game to a city park req team the next. Consistency, marlin isn't young, he has been around. Maybe he needs to go back to getting less talented players who are willing to listen or have a different approach that is easier to be consistent at.

If he runs thru conference with 3 or less losses, what will your assessment be? That would be 2 straight 20 win seasons and a great draw to win the tourney and go dancing.

[CrazyCajun]

If he runs thru conference with 3 or less losses, what will your assessment be? That would be 2 straight 20 win seasons and a great draw to win the tourney and go dancing.

Where have I called for the guy to be fired or anything? I don't speak on the future, right now he has consistently inconsistent, very average. He won a 3 game tournament with a lottery pick and a projected nba draft pick, great. If he has another 20 win year, awesome. What will be your assessment when he goes .500? Or less? Will he be due another restart? And if you were a betting man... Where would you lay your money?

[CajunAmos]

That is exactly my point. I knew Bustle wasn't the guy when we lost to McNeese.

I was never on board with Bob Marlin, I don't like the model that we used for this basketball hire. It is a different animal all together than football. I knew that we were in trouble when the JJ Thomas/Raymone Andrews situation happened. These were his players, and when he lost the locker room I began having my doubts.

I honestly think that last season will end up being an outlier and not the norm. We have just been consistently inconsistent throughout his tenure.

You do realize that the Thomas boys asked to come back later, right? Dad said it was the worst mistake they made when they transferred.