Meanwhile, in Natchitoches

[CajunRage]

No, the bad hire brought in bad guys then grabbed a couple that were here and turned on him... But it was his hire. If some of you can't step away and see that's it sure does seen like a lot of excuses, free passes, yeah buts then I don't think we will agree on anything. If we don't perform this year, who wants to take bets it's shawn long's fault and not bob marlins? Robert lee and bob marlin coach a sport with more winning tradition at this school than any new hire of any other sport combined, a sport that is the easiest to turn around... Keep that in mind. People are saying he is great X's and O's coach, people are saying he finally has the talent, I don't think a little consistency is too much to ask. If we want more than 3k people to show up at games, stop crapping the bed. The price of cajun entertainment has gone way up across the board, people are gonna spend it wisely.

Considering that the program had to be started over after the death penalty, I'd argue that softball and baseball hold more winning tradition than basketball.

[Turbine]

No, the bad hire brought in bad guys then grabbed a couple that were here and turned on him... But it was his hire. If some of you can't step away and see that's it sure does seen like a lot of excuses, free passes, yeah buts then I don't think we will agree on anything. If we don't perform this year, who wants to take bets it's shawn long's fault and not bob marlins? Robert lee and bob marlin coach a sport with more winning tradition at this school than any new hire of any other sport combined, a sport that is the easiest to turn around... Keep that in mind. People are saying he is great X's and O's coach, people are saying he finally has the talent, I don't think a little consistency is too much to ask.

I totally think Marlin messed up on the hire.

Marlin and Bustle have the same problem, motivating for the "you should win" games.

Then again that is Hud's specialty and even he APPdicated the throne for a day.

[CrazyCajun]

Considering that the program had to be started over after the death penalty, I'd argue that softball and baseball hold more winning tradition than basketball.

They do now, and the next softball and baseball coaches will deal with that but those coaches built that. Yvette started it but the lotiefs built it bigger. Tony is cajun baseball, neither of them needed a reboot. Death penalty or not, we have winning tradition for marlin to show recruits, that you can and will win here. I don't see how you can continue to point out all his accomplishments but tried to justify his failures that they aren't in fact his own. The death penalty will never change the fact of what was once accomplished here. We go from looking good one game to a city park req team the next. Consistency, marlin isn't young, he has been around. Maybe he needs to go back to getting less talented players who are willing to listen or have a different approach that is easier to be consistent at.

[CajunRage]

They do now, and the next softball and baseball coaches will deal with that but those coaches built that. Yvette started it but the lotiefs built it bigger. Tony is cajun baseball, neither of them needed a reboot. Death penalty or not, we have winning tradition for marlin to show recruits, that you can and will win here. I don't see how you can continue to point out all his accomplishments but tried to justify his failures that they aren't in fact his own. The death penalty will never change the fact of what was once accomplished here. We go from looking good one game to a city park req team the next. Consistency, marlin isn't young, he has been around. Maybe he needs to go back to getting less talented players who are willing to listen or have a different approach that is easier to be consistent at.

If he runs thru conference with 3 or less losses, what will your assessment be? That would be 2 straight 20 win seasons and a great draw to win the tourney and go dancing.

[CrazyCajun]

If he runs thru conference with 3 or less losses, what will your assessment be? That would be 2 straight 20 win seasons and a great draw to win the tourney and go dancing.

Where have I called for the guy to be fired or anything? I don't speak on the future, right now he has consistently inconsistent, very average. He won a 3 game tournament with a lottery pick and a projected nba draft pick, great. If he has another 20 win year, awesome. What will be your assessment when he goes .500? Or less? Will he be due another restart? And if you were a betting man... Where would you lay your money?

[CajunAmos]

That is exactly my point. I knew Bustle wasn't the guy when we lost to McNeese.

I was never on board with Bob Marlin, I don't like the model that we used for this basketball hire. It is a different animal all together than football. I knew that we were in trouble when the JJ Thomas/Raymone Andrews situation happened. These were his players, and when he lost the locker room I began having my doubts.

I honestly think that last season will end up being an outlier and not the norm. We have just been consistently inconsistent throughout his tenure.

You do realize that the Thomas boys asked to come back later, right? Dad said it was the worst mistake they made when they transferred.

[CajunRage]

Where have I called for the guy to be fired or anything? I don't speak on the future, right now he has consistently inconsistent, very average. He won a 3 game tournament with a lottery pick and a projected nba draft pick, great. If he has another 20 win year, awesome. What will be your assessment when he goes .500? Or less? Will he be due another restart? And if you were a betting man... Where would you lay your money?

I told you earlier. He coaches .500 ball in conference, I'll carry the torch with you. As for EP and Long, he recruited them. If we have our way, we'll always have draft picks on our roster. Believe it or not, that's how you build a program. He also won 11 out of the last 13 games last year, not just a 3 game tournament. This wasn't a 2-28 team that got in to the tournament as the last seed and won 3 games. A smart betting man stays away from this bet. There is not enough evidence to know one way or the other.

[CrazyCajun]

You do realize that the Thomas boys asked to come back later, right? Dad said it was the worst mistake they made when they transferred.

He may or may not ever admit it, but marlins bad hire really hurt the program. I know people make mistakes and I'll give Bob credit, he realized the mistake and got rid of it. At the end if the day he hired Johnson and was his mistake. I hope marlin is the right guy, I personally just haven't seen anything that tells me he is for sure....also nothing that has told he for sure isn't. At this point, with his contract and his record it kind of just is what it is.

[CrazyCajun]

I told you earlier. He coaches .500 ball in conference, I'll carry the torch with you. As for EP and Long, he recruited them. If we have our way, we'll always have draft picks on our roster. Believe it or not, that's how you build a program. He also won 11 out of the last 13 games last year, not just a 3 game tournament. This wasn't a 2-28 team that got in to the tournament as the last seed and won 3 games. A smart betting man stays away from this bet. There is not enough evidence to know one way or the other.

And that's where I am, staying away from the bet...but something tells me if bob marlin was an arrogant, abrasive, loud mouth A-hole... Nobody would be granting him a restart.

[lcitsh]

For my downplay of the SBC, I suggest you look at the power ranking of virtually every SBC team posted by Icitch. Could not be uglier, and we are among the lowest of the low.

The good news? Our talent is far better than our play so far.

I'm sorry your eyesight is so poor that you can't tell the difference between an l and an i, nor an s and a c, but at least you can make out the difference in numbers. I'm wondering how you can assess the production those numbers entail, however, and still make that last statement. Superior talent normally does not lose to inferior talent.