Meanwhile, in Natchitoches

[CrazyCajun]

The mistake was the extension a couple years back. At this point, you obviously have to let the year play out. If we win conference and are in the dance again, you won't be talking a whole lot about these two losses and we will be praising the job he's done this year.

That's not what I'm talking about, robert lee was given a reboot, marlin was given a reboot. Marlin earned his extension per his contract. Was it a bad contract? Maybe, but he "won his division" and even postponed the raise and extension per our request. Your body of work and record are what they are, head coaches are in charge they should be held accountable for everything...no more reboots.

[CajunRage]

Also what does attending the game in Nola have to do with this?

You think I don't like the players? That is your argument?

Right now we are more talented than any team we have had since '05. Are we winning, outside of D3 and NAIA games I would say no.

Marlin ain't the guy. When you have the right guy you know it prior to year 5.

You can't criticize an era of basketball and just put it on the coach. You considered the last decade a waste. That's as much a slap in the face to the players as you want it to be to marlin. I was at the game in Nola and saw first hand how important that win was to the players and how accomplished they felt.

Right now we have great talent. That talent is also turning the ball over 17 times per game. That is including only 10 each in the two blowout wins against Centenary and Milligan. Turnovers are not on the coach. They are on the players.

Right now we are 6-5. We could be 26-5, 6-25, or anywhere in between. When the season ends, we could be rebuilding and that's where I would see it as Marlin's last chance. We could also be going to the dance in back to back years with back to back 20 win seasons. All the while you wanted Marlin canned 11 games in with 4 new starters.

[Just1More]

The question about Marlin was not player development or X and O coaching, it was recruiting when he came in. I think most fans prior to Marlin were tired of coaches who didn't seem to be able to execute a game plan in a game. Evans and Lee could recruit but they sometimes seemed lost on the court. Marlin was supposed to be the polar opposite of these two guys. A tactical guy who knew the game and was known for getting the most out of the players he had.

I think you're on to something. We've been hiring polar opposites. We need to find our next coach at the equator.

[duggie85]

My realistic expectations are quite simple. Day in and day out play to the level of your talent. Consistency is what I'm looking for. We have yet to see a Bob Marlin coached team play well for extended periods of time, minus the first year he was here.

If this team would play to the level of the talent on the floor we would only have 1 loss. Year in and year out we are inconsistent, that is coaching.

You have zero milestone achievements that you look for in our program? No conference championships, no post season appearances, etc.? Just play to your talent level? Hell, we could have kept Robert Lee at a smaller salary if that is what you are looking for in our basketball program. He had few talented players so they won few games. His teams were consistent every single year.

[CajunRage]

My realistic expectations are quite simple. Day in and day out play to the level of your talent. Consistency is what I'm looking for. We have yet to see a Bob Marlin coached team play well for extended periods of time, minus the first year he was here.

If this team would play to the level of the talent on the floor we would only have 1 loss. Year in and year out we are inconsistent, that is coaching.

All subjective to your opinion. How about some concrete goals that can actually be achieved?

[cajun4life]

To put the three losses early in the season on Broadway is complete BS. I'm sure you will label me the apologist if you haven't already even though the funny and interesting part is that I've been as critical of him as some here. That team was just playing god awful and the debacle against Tech was not his fault. Its kind of like some of you who say the debacle against USA last year was not Haack's fault. Did he play his best? No, However, he rarely had time to make a decision against those teams early as his line could not keep anybody off of him and our receivers struggled to get any type of separation ALL year.

Would we have been 4-0 if Broadway played as well as he did Saturday, probably not. But he threw 7 or 8 interceptions in the first 4 games. He was terrible early in the season. I'm not labeling you as anything, but we were as good as he was all season.

I played the WR position for 2 years here, we will never agree on how good our WRs were. Those kids can play, they do get separation, but TB isn't the type of QB who could hit them consistently.

[cajun4life]

All subjective to your opinion. How about some concrete goals that can actually be achieved?

You want to talk about goals. If this team would play consistent basketball we would win the west. Make a run in the tournament and possibly the NCAA tournament.

You can't accomplish any goals if you can't perform consistently. So that is my number one goal.

[cajun4life]

You have zero milestone achievements that you look for in our program? No conference championships, no post season appearances, etc.? Just play to your talent level? Hell, we could have kept Robert Lee at a smaller salary if that is what you are looking for in our basketball program. They few talented players so they won few games. His teams were consistent every single year.

In a league that has 1 team with an RPI under 100 we should lose no more than 3 games in Sun Belt play. We are horrible, how long will it take for you guys to admit that? Our RPI is at 315!!!!!!!! Out of 351!!!!!

I expect 25 win seasons and an RPI below 125 year in and year out! In an RPI league of 25 that is realistic with our facilities and tradition.

[CajunRage]

In a league that has 1 team with an RPI under 100 we should lose no more than 3 games in Sun Belt play. We are horrible, how long will it take for you guys to admit that? Our RPI is at 315!!!!!!!! Out of 351!!!!!

I expect 25 win seasons and an RPI below 125 year in and year out! In an RPI league of 25 that is realistic with our facilities and tradition.

We haven't lost a single sunbelt game this year.

[cajun4life]

We haven't lost a single sunbelt game this year.

Thanks for pointing that out Cpt Obvious.

[zephyr]

Would we have been 4-0 if Broadway played as well as he did Saturday, probably not. But he threw 7 or 8 interceptions in the first 4 games. He was terrible early in the season. I'm not labeling you as anything, but we were as good as he was all season.

I played the WR position for 2 years here, we will never agree on how good our WRs were. Those kids can play, they do get separation, but TB isn't the type of QB who could hit them consistently.

You're right we won't. Our entire passing game went to short and intermediate routes. Teams started running a single safety over the top with the other in the box because they didn't respect our passing game downfield. You say its because he couldn't throw the deep ball. I say its because teams were confident they could cover our receivers downfield and get a ton of pressure on Broadway which they did. You mention the INT's. How many of those were thrown with men chasing him down because we couldn't pass block? I watched the Ole Miss game twice and don't remember 2 passes he threw where he wasn't under immediate duress.

I'm not saying he played great but those losses and overall play were attributable to the entire team, not just him. Tech was not his fault. We gave up big play after big play and that's on the defense which never turned the field position and gave us a shot.

[CajunRage]

Thanks for pointing that out Cpt Obvious.

You keep pointing out that we are going to lose games in the sunbelt, won't win the conference and won't be dancing at the end of the year, but claim we have the talent to do so. Let's see what happens. The team from LaTech shows up for conference and we don't lose a game.