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    Faulkinberry, Augie T, Sam, stokley, Bustle, and HUD all had some great moments but HUD fell quickly....... HUD I think will have the best run....I certainly hope so!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    I think it's very wrong to assume Hud has more to work with than Stokley. When Stokley was coaching the gap between the haves and the have nots was way smaller than it is today. Back hen there really wasn't much of a difference between the facilities at a school like Alabama and USL. Today, most big conference schools have literally built modern palaces for their student-athletes to live and work in. We can't compete with lavish gifts like that. That ridiculousness didn't exist 20 years ago.

    Also, when Stokley was recruiting good athletes we were in a much better conference with way fewer Division 1-A teams competing with us for atheletes.

    It was much easier back then.
    Did you read what you wrote? Never has USL/UL had similar facilities to any SEC school, and the budgets were a HUGE DIFFERENCE, UF had a football budget of like 40 or 60 million in 1993, our entire athletic department budget was just under 4 million - there haven't been the arms race of the last 3-5 years, but there was a huge difference.

    And i don't t think you all are understanding the point - this is not to take away Hud's success, but he is by no means the best coach we have ever had, and Basin is right, Stokley would have loved to see this success, but do not tell me that these teams compete at the same level - it's disrespectful to those teams and players

    Turbine - I was projecting about bowl appearances for Stokley, and if I reject (or conject opposite if project?) Hud's team back then wouldn't have made any bowls because the teams he has beaten that were in 1-A were E. Carolina, Tulane, Arkansas St.(Went 1-A in 1990), not sure when SDSU made the jump, or if they were always 1-A, ULM (went 1-A in 1997) the rest of the teams Hud has beaten were either 1-AA or lower, and a bunch didn't even have football.

    if Broadway had an ounce of the confidence and toughness of BMitchell, UL would have walked thru the SuckBelt!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSF View Post
    Did you read what you wrote? Never has USL/UL had similar facilities to any SEC school, and the budgets were a HUGE DIFFERENCE, UF had a football budget of like 40 or 60 million in 1993, our entire athletic department budget was just under 4 million - there haven't been the arms race of the last 3-5 years, but there was a huge difference.

    And i don't t think you all are understanding the point - this is not to take away Hud's success, but he is by no means the best coach we have ever had, and Basin is right, Stokley would have loved to see this success, but do not tell me that these teams compete at the same level - it's disrespectful to those teams and players

    Turbine - I was projecting about bowl appearances for Stokley, and if I reject (or conject opposite if project?) Hud's team back then wouldn't have made any bowls because the teams he has beaten that were in 1-A were E. Carolina, Tulane, Arkansas St.(Went 1-A in 1990), not sure when SDSU made the jump, or if they were always 1-A, ULM (went 1-A in 1997) the rest of the teams Hud has beaten were either 1-AA or lower, and a bunch didn't even have football.

    if Broadway had an ounce of the confidence and toughness of BMitchell, UL would have walked thru the SuckBelt!!!
    In 1980 before they stole the marketing angle "The Swamp" Florida's budget was around 5 or 6 million, or around two and a half times what UL's was.

    By 1990 their budget was $23 million about 6 times what UL's budget was.

    For Hud's first couple years their budget was 10 times the size of UL's.

    Today Florida's budget is $100 million. Thanks to Hud's winning ways UL's budget is $18 or so million. That is roughly the same discrepancy that existed in 1990.

    Point being, when Hud took over the gap was greater than it had ever been.

    You are using his success against him. What UL has to work with is not what he had to work with when he won early on. ... four short years ago.

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    It sure is good that we are having this debate whether or not HUD is the best coach in UL history and not the worst.
    How many teams and boards are on the flip side right now.
    While we were 1-3, how many of you would have taken a crystal ball reading that we would wind up 8-4 and in the New Orleans Bowl? This dude would've thought it was unlikely.


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    When we were 1-3, and I saw the mangy dogs that we had left (i.e. our SBC foes), I EXPECTED to go at LEAST 7-1.
    After we beat stAte, I then changed my expectations to 8-0 in the Belch. Even when I expected 7-1, I did NOT expect the 1L to be to a former D 1AA team -- AT HOME.
    Yes, success does raise expectations -- but that is a good thing. It is something we have not had to "Suffer through" with football since I arrived in LA in 1982.


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    douglas's Avatar douglas is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Fan for Sure

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    ill add some pepper to the gumbo. sat down with someone no long ago that would trade bob marlin for robert lee "in a heart beat" let that ____ sink in-alright back to what we were talking about


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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    For anyone believing it's common to think something of yesteryear was better than the present, just because it was "their time"... it is just as common to have someone discount the past when the present is more "their time". I overlapped, as many on here did, as an alumni (not student) when Stokley started all the way until now. I was never out of the loop during those years. Why is it so inconceivable that Stokley is regarded as a better Xs and Os coach? The only people that can judge Stokley versus Hud must be fans that watched both eras of football with equal interest as an adult. Personally, I don't care about the other BS some of you are trying to compare. You're just drifting away from the only valid analysis... and that has to provided by marginal to good football coaching tactics evaluators that watched both coaches in action, as an adult, as a fan of the Cajuns. If you don't fit this category, then be quiet.

    And, no one needs to walk away with their panties twisted up. We're still giving props, no matter which side you fall on, to one of our own coaches.


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    X es and O s ... Stokley by a MILE


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    Quote Originally Posted by douglas View Post
    ill add some pepper to the gumbo. sat down with someone no long ago that would trade bob marlin for robert lee "in a heart beat" let that ____ sink in-alright back to what we were talking about
    It worked, I have a sinking feeling.

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