UL Desegregation, 1954

[HOUCajun]

_ Doesn't speak very well our hunt and find skills.

I don't see how this thread could generate 400 views and only result in 17 clicks to UL Today. We must be clicking but not finding what we went there for.

Perhaps you could start providing a link directly to the article in your post? _

I have had trouble finding articles once I get to UL today.

[CajunZ1]

_ I have had trouble finding articles once I get to UL today. _

Typical UL_L grad!

[CajunFun]

_ Doesn't speak very well our hunt and find skills.

I don't see how this thread could generate 400 views and only result in 17 clicks to UL Today. We must be clicking but not finding what we went there for.

Perhaps you could start providing a link directly to the article in your post? _

I can start to do that. But when I post that an article is up, it's almost always top right or top left.

But there are never more than a dozen articles up at any one time (and even then, I'd like to think that a loyal college graduate would be interested in all of them). I can't believe that having to glance around a dozen articles, would deter 383 people who were really interested in the topic...

[Turbine]

(and even then, I'd like to think that a loyal college graduate would be interested in all of them). I can't believe that having to glance around a dozen articles, would deter 383 people who were really interested in the topic... _

I think that is the deal, 12 (many more) interesting articles and not necessarily having all day we end up getting diverted.

Back to topic I'm trying to line up an interview with Martin J. Wiltz. My understanding at the moment is that he was a first year UL desegration student who graduated.

[Boomer]

_ It doesn't need to be done legislatively. It needs to be done athletically.

I don't despise ULM, but until we're in different conferences, we'll have a hard time selling "UL".

Once we're in separate conferences, our conference members will change our name for us if for no other reason than economic motivation. "The University of Louisiana" will sell more tickets than "Louisiana-Lafayette".

Once that happens, the media will start using it, and it will be all over. Back in 1999, I argued that the AP would change our name, no one else. One of our people even had a powerful connection in the sports department at AP, and they were ready to start calling us "Louisiana" whenever we told them to.--------Fun I told this to Coach Blanco----his greatest legacy would be his getting us in a better conference--yes away from ULM ---when the chips fall again---- he is the guy to getter done--you agree????

Alas, the administration did not move on it. _

[cajunnexile]

_ UL was the first school in the US to desegregate after Brown v Board, and the first historically white southern school to desegregate in any meaningful way.

The University Press of Florida has given ultoday.com permission to reprint the history of UL's Desegregation. We will serialize the story over the next few weeks.

I hate to be the naysayer again here, but Brown v. Board did not desegregate higher ed, it applied to primary and secondary school. Your article about UL responding to Brown is off base.

A case called Sweat v Painter (1949) and its successor cases intergrated higher ed. Sweat acutally took place before Brown and involved higher ed in Texas and Ok.

These cases had a direct effect on Louisiana higher ed.

[HoustonCajun]

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Not only did we not get into a better conference, we admitted ULM into our conference, which we could have blocked, except Dr. A promised them admittance. Now, we are tied to the hip with them. They have clearly selected ULM as their logo. It is time for UL to start first with the SBC in recognizing us as UL and Louisiana, then the national media. If our conference won't do it, go independent. There are only 3 major college independents, ND, Army and Navy, so we would be in good company. 7 football wins will get you a bowl game, so why do you need the conference? Scheduling? Heck that shouldn't be a problem and we could get a far better schedule than the SBC. Automatic bids? Softball did just fine without an automatic bid. Baseball has a solid enough reputation to get at large bids. How many times have we been to the NCAA in basketball in the last 20 years? 4 times and we were one and out each time and only 5 times in the last 30 years. Travel? Shouldn't be any worse than it is now. Conference revenue? The SBC doesn't pay anything. We just might be able to make a better name for ourselves as an Independent and have a better chance at joining another better conference later with better fan support and separation from the other in-state schools.

Football is our primary revenue generator that is anemic at best. Our best schedule ever was in 1996 when we played Florida, Texas A&M, Southern Miss, LA Tech, Houston, Arkansas State, UAB, Memphis, VA Tech, Northern Illinois and Texas Tech and went 5-6. We could recruit better against this kind of schedule, we could increase fan interest and support, generate greater attendance today, garner more national recognition, move our program up from the worse conference in the country and distinguish ourselves as a major player as LOUISIANA.

[Boomer]

_ I hate to be the naysayer again here, but Brown v. Board did not desegregate higher ed, it applied to primary and secondary school. Your article about UL responding to Brown is off base.

A case called Sweat v Painter (1949) and its successor cases intergrated higher ed. Sweat acutally took place before Brown and involved higher ed in Texas and Ok.

These cases had a direct effect on Louisiana higher ed. _

It is great that this board allows these posts of facts---thanks for the clarification---In my short Law School stay I did not realize that Brown v Board did not cover higher education--But the main thing is that we were about a decade ahead of the Universities of Miss and Ala and maybe LSU in our admissions---BTW when did LSU allow blacks??? I know that it was a while after UL!!!

[CajunFun]

_ UL was the first school in the US to desegregate after Brown v Board, and the first historically white southern school to desegregate in any meaningful way.

The University Press of Florida has given ultoday.com permission to reprint the history of UL's Desegregation. We will serialize the story over the next few weeks.

First article is up on...

Next installment is up http://ultoday.com/node/877

[racajun54]

_ UL was the first school in the US to desegregate after Brown v Board, and the first historically white southern school to desegregate in any meaningful way.

The University Press of Florida has given ultoday.com permission to reprint the history of UL's Desegregation. We will serialize the story over the next few weeks.

First article is up on...

Complaining about the University on the boards and in public hurts UL,
and it hurts the Ragin' Cajuns.

Negativity undermines our recruiting, fundraising, attendance, and ticket sales.

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UL WAS NOT A LEADER IN THIS!!!!!! You were sued, taken to court, and ORDERED by a judge to allow blacks in. UL DID NOT DO THIS VOLUNTARLY!!!!! YOU WERE MADE TO DO IT IN FACT YOUR ADMINISTRATION AT THE TIME FOUGHT IT. Please don't make yourselves out to be some kind of forward thinking university. Like virually all colleges and universities in the South at the time you fought this tooth and nail.

[racajun54]

_ It is great that this board allows these posts of facts---thanks for the clarification---In my short Law School stay I did not realize that Brown v Board did not cover higher education--But the main thing is that we were about a decade ahead of the Universities of Miss and Ala and maybe LSU in our admissions---BTW when did LSU allow blacks??? I know that it was a while after UL!!! _

READ THE ARTICLE YOU WERE SUED, TAKEN TO COURT, ULL DID NOT VOLUNTARLY DESEGREGATE!!!!! Granted you may have been ahead of LSU and the rest of the South but you were ordered by a judge to do it.

[CajunFun]

_ Doesn't speak very well our hunt and find skills.

I don't see how this thread could generate 400 views and only result in 17 clicks to UL Today. We must be clicking but not finding what we went there for.

Perhaps you could start providing a link directly to the article in your post? _

I posted the QB club notes, with a direct link, and within an hour 40 people had read it. Within 24 hours it was over 130 views, and today, it's over 190 views.

In 24 hours however, the deseg article-- again, with a direct link here-- has had only attracted 16 views.

Some non-sports articles do OK, even without a direct link here: Vote Beausoleil, about 60 views, UL's SBDC Director taking top honors, less than 40 views.

So we care about football a lot more than academics and other things. But there seems to be a definite resistance to the deseg story.

Why do you guys & gals think that is?