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[cajun4life]

Note to coach: while you're adding the super secret plays, please put a package in where we actually run out of I-formation or Split Back or truly anything where we may be able to utilize the depth at the position and not have to rely on the option read every play.

Thanks _

Dude you must hate the spread! lol We do not have the personnel to line up in the I-formation and be successful. Our offensive line is not physical enough to accomplish this feat. They are very good at the spread and the specific schemes that we use to run the ball. We are a finesse offense that can run the ball. To run the I formation you need mean, angry maulers on the o-line. What we have is mean, quick, agile and disciplined offensive linemen. We have not had an o-line that could run the I since Anthony Clement and company were here.

[DrumRoll]

_ Dude you must hate the spread! lol We do not have the personnel to line up in the I-formation and be successful. Our offensive line is not physical enough to accomplish this feat. They are very good at the spread and the specific schemes that we use to run the ball. We are a finesse offense that can run the ball. To run the I formation you need mean, angry maulers on the o-line. What we have is mean, quick, agile and disciplined offensive linemen. We have not had an o-line that could run the I since Anthony Clement and company were here. _

You probably know a great deal more than I do about football and UL's O-Line, but the off tackle running game appears to be a sure thing to me. I think the I formation would be VERY effective against some of our opponents, a situational thing. I think we have some personnel that can properly staff up the I, would love to see us give it a try.

[zephyr]

_ Dude you must hate the spread! lol We do not have the personnel to line up in the I-formation and be successful. Our offensive line is not physical enough to accomplish this feat. They are very good at the spread and the specific schemes that we use to run the ball. We are a finesse offense that can run the ball. To run the I formation you need mean, angry maulers on the o-line. What we have is mean, quick, agile and disciplined offensive linemen. We have not had an o-line that could run the I since Anthony Clement and company were here. _

All I ask is that you read my post completely. I understand the spread is the offense we incorporate and quite frankly is needed since we are usually going to have to match teams with speed rather than size. However, I'm simply implying that we use other formations to change things up a bit. We've run the zone option read for years now and I don't think the zone option is necessarily the best formation to run ALL of the time given our personnel. With Des and Fenroy it was perfect for them because Des could easily beat you if you took Fenroy away. You saw what happened last year once Des got the knee injury and his running ability was hampered. Mike Price went as far as to say that he was surprised we kept running the same offense against UTEP since all they did was take Fenroy away and let a hobbled Des try to beat them. We do not have QB's that are efficient running the ball 20 times per game as Des was. Hence, It may be a good idea to throw different formations at teams from time to time. Coach Bustle agrees and has several times during the spring mentioned that he'd run more from under center to utilize the talents of certain backfield personnel especially using the playaction capabilities of the QB's . However, as of present, the coaching staff hasn't incorporated any type of variation into the offense. Maybe that is what he was doing in the super secret quasi-scrimmage today that was closed to the public. However, a little variation never hurt anybody and only gives the opposing team more to gameplan for.

[cajun4life]

_ All I ask is that you read my post completely. I understand the spread is the offense we incorporate and quite frankly is needed since we are usually going to have to match teams with speed rather than size. However, I'm simply implying that we use other formations to change things up a bit. We've run the zone option read for years now and I don't think the zone option is necessarily the best formation to run ALL of the time given our personnel. With Des and Fenroy it was perfect for them because Des could easily beat you if you took Fenroy away. You saw what happened last year once Des got the knee injury and his running ability was hampered. Mike Price went as far as to say that he was surprised we kept running the same offense against UTEP since all they did was take Fenroy away and let a hobbled Des try to beat them. We do not have QB's that are efficient running the ball 20 times per game as Des was. Hence, It may be a good idea to throw different formations at teams from time to time. Coach Bustle agrees and has several times during the spring mentioned that he'd run more from under center to utilize the talents of certain backfield personnel especially using the playaction capabilities of the QB's . However, as of present, the coaching staff hasn't incorporated any type of variation into the offense. Maybe that is what he was doing in the super secret quasi-scrimmage today that was closed to the public. However, a little variation never hurt anybody and only gives the opposing team more to gameplan for. _

I agree with some of this, but to get back to my point, our personnel do not equate to the I formation. So we could line up in the I, but it would more than likely just be a wasted play. You witnessed that several time in goal line situation in the past. We do not create a big enough push up front to run successfully out of the I. We might be able to play action with some success, IMO.

[Boomer]

OK guys it is close enough to game time to let the Cat out of the bag--that would be Gauthier----He will start in the backfield with one of the Ms---he will run mis-directional sweeps on nearly every play with both RBs and FBs alternating on different plays----It was the offense that Rickey finally realized would be great after I tried to implement it during the Des and Morel years---If only they would actually use this!!!----Oh if only they would use it!!!!!

[zephyr]

_ I agree with some of this, but to get back to my point, our personnel do not equate to the I formation. So we could line up in the I, but it would more than likely just be a wasted play. You witnessed that several time in goal line situation in the past. We do not create a big enough push up front to run successfully out of the I. We might be able to play action with some success, IMO. _

Well, I would disagree as well to a certain degree. I'm not saying we utilize this as our primary offense. Also, our line is a run blocking line as we've run the ball 70% of the time for 3-4 years now. Our line is big line although not a huge line. If Odom is in the game, we average over 300 pounds per man. From what I saw in the scrimmage last week we ran the ball the best in the goaline situation when we lined up and ran right at the defense. Also, i think the way the average school out there, especially in the SBC, is recruiting for their defenses is to stop the spread. They seem to be going quicker, lighter guys who can ran the width of the field and tackle and cover in space. Heck, we are starting to do this as you are seeing us convert safeties into linebackers to utilize speed. For this reason, I think the line would more than adequately run block in a situation where we went with a power formation of some sort. Also, who says you have to run the ball out of the I ? FAU runs a pro style offense all of the time and they roll Rusty Smith out on playactions and bootlegs and he's not even a real mobile guy. It just gives you a different look and I think since we will throw plenty to two tight ends and run two tight end sets a lot, it seems like a good formation to throw out from time to time.

[cajun4life]

_ Well, I would disagree as well to a certain degree. I'm not saying we utilize this as our primary offense. Also, our line is a run blocking line as we've run the ball 70% of the time for 3-4 years now. Our line is big line although not a huge line. If Odom is in the game, we average over 300 pounds per man. From what I saw in the scrimmage last week we ran the ball the best in the goaline situation when we lined up and ran right at the defense. Also, i think the way the average school out there, especially in the SBC, is recruiting for their defenses is to stop the spread. They seem to be going quicker, lighter guys who can ran the width of the field and tackle and cover in space. Heck, we are starting to do this as you are seeing us convert safeties into linebackers to utilize speed. For this reason, I think the line would more than adequately run block in a situation where we went with a power formation of some sort. Also, who says you have to run the ball out of the I ? FAU runs a pro style offense all of the time and they roll Rusty Smith out on playactions and bootlegs and he's not even a real mobile guy. It just gives you a different look and I think since we will throw plenty to two tight ends and run two tight end sets a lot, it seems like a good formation to throw out from time to time. _

While I think we will use 2 TEs a lot, they will be lined up in the slot more times than not. Especially in Greens case because he is not as profficient and Aubry is when it comes to blocking.

Our O-line is around 300 pounds, but they still rely on misdirection and great ball handling skills by the QB in order to seal off blocks allowing us to be se effective in the run. It is the same scheme we have been using since Bustle took over 8 years ago. Until I see this O-line line up and run a man blocking scheme instead of the zone read/spread option then we just have to agree to disagree.

[CajunFan89]

I want to know other peoples opinions on a 3-3-5 defensive scheme and how you think it would work out if it was ever implemented at UL. As far as the offense goes, I feel that UL's best chance at success for now is running the option. you have a few good rb's that are more than capable of making big plays happen. not fenroy by any stretch of the imagination but still very capable. The thing will be trying to make the passing game a factor. We couldn't run out of the I in the past because everyone knew that we weren't an effective enough passing team to be much threat in the air.

[Clutch0364]

_ I want to know other peoples opinions on a 3-3-5 defensive scheme and how you think it would work out if it was ever implemented at UL. As far as the offense goes, I feel that UL's best chance at success for now is running the option. you have a few good rb's that are more than capable of making big plays happen. not fenroy by any stretch of the imagination but still very capable. The thing will be trying to make the passing game a factor. We couldn't run out of the I in the past because everyone knew that we weren't an effective enough passing team to be much threat in the air. _

I like the 3-3-5 defense especially at schools like UL. It much easier for us to recruit athletes than it is big defensive linemen.

[zephyr]

_ I want to know other peoples opinions on a 3-3-5 defensive scheme and how you think it would work out if it was ever implemented at UL. As far as the offense goes, I feel that UL's best chance at success for now is running the option. you have a few good rb's that are more than capable of making big plays happen. not fenroy by any stretch of the imagination but still very capable. The thing will be trying to make the passing game a factor. We couldn't run out of the I in the past because everyone knew that we weren't an effective enough passing team to be much threat in the air. _

I don't mind the 335. It is an aggressive style of defense that incorporates a lot of team speed on D and usually allows you to run infinite blitz schemes.

I do not think our best chance of success is running the option. With Desormeaux it was. With the personnel we have now, it is not the best. We have QB's who can make things happen but they are not going to be effective running the ball 15+ times per game. That is just not the strength of these QB's. They are better passers than Des was and they need to be used in a more balanced manner.