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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    OK guys. Go ahead. But the rule is clear. The question then becomes, is there an extenuating circumstance that might help him out.

    Because "barely over the percentage" isn't going to fly.

    And, the fact he didn't redshirt makes no difference because he's over 30 percent. He's played four years. That's all you're allowed unless one of those years is under 30%
    So why is there an appeal process if the rule is clear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    So why is there an appeal process if the rule is clear?
    I think what Jay is stating is correct in that you won't find any recent examples of the appeal process working in the athletes favor. But there is going to be an appeal process and Hud was just stating he didn't see why Jamal Robinson would not get his RS-year back. I was leaning more positive on his chances, but the more you look for recent examples of an athlete winning an appeal under the same circumstances the more I keep coming up with none. Jay is correct as per the 30% rule as others have posted as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    I think what Jay is stating is correct in that you won't find any recent examples of the appeal process working in the athletes favor. But there is going to be an appeal process and Hud was just stating he didn't see why Jamal Robinson would not get his RS-year back. I was leaning more positive on his chances, but the more you look for recent examples of an athlete winning an appeal under the same circumstances the more I keep coming up with none. Jay is correct as per the 30% rule as others have posted as well.
    ACtually, no I'm not correct.

    This is crazy. There are two ways to calculate this thing. And, you come up with two different answers......

    1. You play 12 games. A player plays in four games. That's 33%.

    2. You play 12 games. You multiply by 30% and that's the number of games you can play in. In this case, it's 3.6. The NCAA says round up.

    That's four games.

    I'm doing an article right now on this whole thing. I'll link it when I'm done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    I think what Jay is stating is correct in that you won't find any recent examples of the appeal process working in the athletes favor. But there is going to be an appeal process and Hud was just stating he didn't see why Jamal Robinson would not get his RS-year back. I was leaning more positive on his chances, but the more you look for recent examples of an athlete winning an appeal under the same circumstances the more I keep coming up with none. Jay is correct as per the 30% rule as others have posted as well.
    im not syaing he isnt, but thats the point of an appeal is to build your case. if he wants us to give him some personal aspect of jamal robinsons life or his schooling or whatever then i cant help. i dont think any case is the exact same. if it was so cut and dry, i would think the coaches would already know the answer, specifically the guy on our staff that is supposedly a guru at eligibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    Justin Venable was injured for basically four years. His case was the first time in NCAA history a student athlete was given up to eight years and it hasn't happened since.

    If someone wants to give me an example of what might be an extenuating circumstance in which an exception would be made for Robinson, let me know.
    Refer to the granted 6th year medical redshirt for QB Case Keenum (Houston)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    ACtually, no I'm not correct.

    This is crazy. There are two ways to calculate this thing. And, you come up with two different answers......

    1. You play 12 games. A player plays in four games. That's 33%.

    2. You play 12 games. You multiply by 30% and that's the number of games you can play in. In this case, it's 3.6. The NCAA says round up.

    That's four games.

    I'm doing an article right now on this whole thing. I'll link it when I'm done.
    Well, he has played in two complete games and 2 first halves, so the comes out to 3.0 games does it not? If that is the case, it leaves him below the 30% or 4 game threshold. In either case, the appeal has to be filed and the process has to run its course. To me it matters not who is right, but what happens with the appeal and the NCAA's final decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    Well, he has played in two complete games and 2 first halves, so the comes out to 3.0 games does it not? If that is the case, it leaves him below the 30% or 4 game threshold. In either case, the appeal has to be filed and the process has to run its course. To me it matters not who is right, but what happens with the appeal and the NCAA's final decision.
    1 down is competing in a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise View Post
    ACtually, no I'm not correct.

    This is crazy. There are two ways to calculate this thing. And, you come up with two different answers......

    1. You play 12 games. A player plays in four games. That's 33%.

    2. You play 12 games. You multiply by 30% and that's the number of games you can play in. In this case, it's 3.6. The NCAA says round up.

    That's four games.

    I'm doing an article right now on this whole thing. I'll link it when I'm done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    1 down is competing in a game.
    LOL!! Got it now, just need to keep reading the NCAA rules for a minute to understand why they screw so much up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    LOL!! Got it now, just need to keep reading the NCAA rules for a minute to understand why they screw so much up!
    i had to read the rule a couple times myself, from what i read and interpret he should get the year back.

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    This can all be remedied by making it a % of how many plays an athlete played that year. Takes away A LOT of the guessing game. Set it at 33%, because if you played anymore than a 1/3 of your teams plays for the year, then you don't get the appeal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunfan337 View Post
    This can all be remedied by making it a % of how many plays an athlete played that year. Takes away A LOT of the guessing game. Set it at 33%, because if you played anymore than a 1/3 of your teams plays for the year, then you don't get the appeal.
    Currently this is a legacy rule, with today's database technology your idea is the best and easily implemented.

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