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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    Previous 6 years before Hudspeth,

    Only 2 losing seasons out of 6. Conference championship. Wins over Kansas State, CUSA champ Houston.
    We're counting "non-losing" seasons now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    No jack sss, the conference. You are basing your argument on close losses and that time so and so almost beat so and so. All I know is the conference has gone from our champion having a losing record to 6 bowl eligible a teams last year. How many coaches got bigger jobs during bustles 9 years? How many during hud's? What was the average salary during bustles 9 years? What is the average now?

    Funny you left out last 6 seasons under bustle...30 wins

    Right now HUD has 29 in 3 and 1/4 seasons
    1 winning season for Bustle. But he had 4 "non-losing" seasons

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    1 winning season for Bustle. But he had 4 "non-losing" seasons
    Yeah...conference was so strong we had a 3 way tie of 6-5 teams but we lost the tie breaker because one of our "champions" lost to an FCS team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alum81 View Post
    No doubt Hud coached them up. Those guys played much harder under Hud. I'm just saying I am not seeing the increase in talent that I thought I would in Hud's recruits.
    "..........they COMMITED or signed and for whatever reason many ....about 30 .... Aren't here!!!o

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunNation View Post
    UNT

    Was co-champions in 2001, the first year of SBC football, with a 5-6 record.

    Toothpick was still here.

    2002 they won 8 and beat Cincinatti 7-7

    2003 they won 9 and beat Baylor. 3-9


    MT

    2001, won 8 games, beat Vanderbilt 2-9, lost to LSU 10-3 by 16.

    2002, beat Vanderbilt 2-10, lost to Alabama 10-3 by 5


    ASU

    2002, beat Tulsa 1-11

    2003, lost to Texas A&M 4-8 by 15

    2004, lost to Ole Miss by 4-7 7


    Troy

    2004, won 7 games, beat Marshall 6-6, beat Missouri 5-6, lost to South Carolina 6-5 by 10, lost to LSU 9-3 by 4


    NMSU

    2001, lost to Oregon State 5-6 by 5, beat Tulsa 1-10

    2002, won 7 games, lost to South Carolina 5-7 by 10, beat New Mexico 7-7, beat UTEP 2-10




    With the team Bustle inherited, Hudspeth would have struggled for a few years too. Don't fool yourself.

    Bustle arrived in 2002. By year 4, we were conference co-champions.
    I've added the opponents records in bold to put things in better perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    fick·le
    ˈfik(ə)l/
    adjective
    adjective: fickle; comparative adjective: fickler; superlative adjective: ficklest

    changing frequently, especially as regards one's loyalties, interests, or affection.


    Hudspeth was God's gift to earth going into this season. 3 game skid and all is forgotten. He doesn't know how to coach. We won't win another game all year. A garbage GaState game will beat us by 2 to 3 touchdowns.

    Some were worried that Hudspeth was so good that he would be gone after this year. Now we have threads on whether he should be calling the shots for us.

    If that's not the definition of fickle, I don't know what else is.

    We all know this team has problems. And if we were at LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma, etc., it would be flat out unacceptable to have lost to LaTech and get blown out by Ole Miss or Boise. But guess what, we are the University of Louisiana ... at Lafayette, out of the sunbelt, with a losing record all-time. We have a coach that took us not only to our first bowl game (in 30 years if you want to count it), but to 3 consecutive bowl games. We just had 25k show up to a game between two 1-3 teams after getting embarrassed 3 weeks in a row. Attendance would have been in the low teens in years past.

    Pointing out facts is fine, criticism is fine. 80 f'n threads about it is not. Insinuating that Hudspeth doesn't have a clue what he is doing is not. The guy has a 95-36 all time record as a coach. How many college football wins does raginpagin have combined? Rome wasn't built in a fricken day. If we finish 6-6 or worse, by all means, pour in on, but let the guy who took this program to the next level right the ship. Because before he got here, no one would have batted an eye after those 3 losses.
    40 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    40 years
    typo, sorry

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    You guys want to keep comparing the records. They are not comparable, for many reasons, as I have tried to explain.

    All I am doing is defending Rickey Bustle. He was left a train wreck. Turned it around. Accomplished some things and left it teed up real nice for Hudspeth. For many reasons, some not of his doing, he could not get beyond 6 wins.

    Not tearing down anyone.

    Just trying to bring a little perspective.


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    QUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIET!!!!!! ........Now, here is the deal. If this move by Coach Hud fixes the problem, fine. All that I care about is we get the Defensive problems fixed. I know everyone is flustered.....obvious to me that our Head Coach is also frustrated about this situation. I care about one thing here.....fix the problem. I do not care how it gets fixed.


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    If things turn around, the reality is that no one will ever really know if the consultant had any impact or not.

    If things do improve, you wouldn't expect HUD to say the consultant had little impact.

    If they do improve, some of it will no doubt be due to declining competition.

    Not really worth debating if you can not measure it, particularly if HUD and Willis are still in charge.


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    Quote Originally Posted by USL1970 View Post
    If things turn around, the reality is that no one will ever really know if the consultant had any impact or not.

    If things do improve, you wouldn't expect HUD to say the consultant had little impact.

    If they do improve, some of it will no doubt be due to declining competition.

    Not really worth debating if you can not measure it, particularly if HUD and Willis are still in charge.
    Best case scenario, the consultant tells HUD he should listen to his DC because the guy knows what he is talking about. Not that we would ever know but that's what I'm hoping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRage View Post
    fick·le
    ˈfik(ə)l/
    adjective
    adjective: fickle; comparative adjective: fickler; superlative adjective: ficklest

    changing frequently, especially as regards one's loyalties, interests, or affection.


    Hudspeth was God's gift to earth going into this season. 3 game skid and all is forgotten. He doesn't know how to coach. We won't win another game all year. A garbage GaState game will beat us by 2 to 3 touchdowns.

    Some were worried that Hudspeth was so good that he would be gone after this year. Now we have threads on whether he should be calling the shots for us.

    If that's not the definition of fickle, I don't know what else is.

    We all know this team has problems. And if we were at LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma, etc., it would be flat out unacceptable to have lost to LaTech and get blown out by Ole Miss or Boise. But guess what, we are the University of Louisiana ... at Lafayette, out of the sunbelt, with a losing record all-time. We have a coach that took us not only to our first bowl game (in 40 years if you want to count it), but to 3 consecutive bowl games. We just had 25k show up to a game between two 1-3 teams after getting embarrassed 3 weeks in a row. Attendance would have been in the low teens in years past.

    Pointing out facts is fine, criticism is fine. 80 f'n threads about it is not. Insinuating that Hudspeth doesn't have a clue what he is doing is not. The guy has a 95-36 all time record as a coach. How many college football wins does raginpagin have combined? Rome wasn't built in a fricken day. If we finish 6-6 or worse, by all means, pour in on, but let the guy who took this program to the next level right the ship. Because before he got here, no one would have batted an eye after those 3 losses.
    Rage, you're falling into a familiar trap that occurs on this site. You are bundling this entire site's posting into a single entity. Calling the site "fickle" is a huge overshoot. You can get as upset as you want about individual reactions to our football program... but they are absolutely 100% natural. All of them. And they are individual opinions.

    And to explain the Hud thing... I do believe a percentage of fans were so overwhelmed with his charisma and what that did to energize both the football program and the fans... they loved showing him the love. I still think he's massively popular with the majority of fans. I am one of those that really truly appreciates what Hud brings to the program and university. But, after having seen the football product... specific details with coaching this year... it warrants some criticism. Regardless of me or others being critical... I still think he can overcome the issues, make adjustments, and succeed. And I do believe the pressure of fans is both natural and necessary to bring about positive change.

    In fact, this recent defensive consultant "hire", and the explanation given by Hud... contrasts drastically from what Hud said when he reacted to some of the fans' discontent with the defensive scheme. He completely endorsed the scheme, and everything else about the defense. Even last year, he stated early on that our secondary was "inexperienced"... but he totally justified the scheme we use. Strangely, now he is opening up the possibility that we need another coach's perspective on our defensive scheme (he's slipping it in gently... but he's slipping it in). The exact things that caused the huge posts on this site, are being directly addressed in his own response to the emergence of Matt Wallershedt on the scene.

    Hud admitted that some of Matt's input directly effected our 4 and 5 man fronts against GA State. And I can guarantee you we were pressuring them 500% more than we pressured anyone before (and if they think harder about how to uncoach and recoach our secondary... more positive results will occur). The fact of the matter is... these latest developments completely exonerate the fans on here that were getting massively aggravated over our defense.

    And there is some validity to Nation's comparison of Bustle versus what he faced... and what Hud is facing now. It does not in any way shout, "Bring back Bustle"... or "Hud isn't our man". But, I believe we're seeing what many of us see in our own job performance. It never hurts to humble yourself, listen to trusted advisors, consider the possibility we aren't perfect, and try something else... even something we prior rejected... that may help ourselves and our organization.

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