How Much Should We Cut Higher Education?

[Boomer]

_ Grambling and Southern Universities are great and legendary institutions, both have a lot to offer! Southern University has a fine law program and engineering program! Grambling produces great teachers, they have a good nursing program and their CIS program graduated more students than any other University in the state of Louisiana in the past 10 years. More than any other university in the state shows that they aren't a waste of tax payers money! So i'm not just focusing on sports! You need to know the facts before you just say close those Universities because they are indeed producing productive people! Jindal needs to get off his butt and cut all those programs that aren't needed and stop trying to please his buddies! _

Yea ---I say we follow the guidelines as established by the consent decree and cut out LSU's PHD in Computer Science----it is all bs---I could produce more PHDs in any subject than any UNiversity in the world---make it EASY!!!! dum da dum dum!!!!!

[4LSU]

_ Neither university has the academic pedigree of UL and their football teams are "legendary" in the SWAC and the games they play between each other. Perhaps the more legendary aspects of these universities are their bands rather than their football teams. To put their tradition against UL's is not putting things in perspective. However, I do not think that closing these schools is a viable option either. I do think both are valuable assets to the college landscape in this state. _

Do we have much in the way of options as long as what can be cut and what can't remain the same? I know we have a lot of colleges for our population, but what makes anyone think that cutting the number of colleges will free up more money for those which remain? It may sound like a reasonable thought process, but I wouldn't bet money on it or on getting anything passed which makes the $$$$$ go to education.

And they are "legendary" as schools both state wise and nationally. Anything can be done, but the blood loss by the one doing it would be severe.

[CajunNation]

Do we have much in the way of options as long as what can be cut and what can't remain the same? I know we have a lot of colleges for our population, but what makes anyone think that cutting the number of colleges will free up more money for those which remain? It may sound like a reasonable thought process, but I wouldn't bet money on it or on getting anything passed which makes the $$$$$ go to education.

And they are "legendary" as schools both state wise and nationally. Anything can be done, but the blood loss by the one doing it would be severe.

You're missing the point.

The schools are being told to make cuts because the STATE can't make the budget work.

Closing schools won't increase monies to other schools, but it will sure decrease the sum total of expenditures that the state has in any given year, thus negating the need for cuts.

[LSUfan4ever]

All the irrelevant bullcrap you are speaking and these colleges will still remain opened with your wishful thinking! In my job field of criminal justice, i work with many graduates from Grambling, Southern and from an HBCU in Mississippi but i forgot the name but i can honestly say they have intelligence and know their job so i don't feel their Universities are hampering them educationally! It's not their fault this this state is in poor shape! There are so many other things that could get cut to free up money, closing Universities isn't the answer! Shut down these Universities and see what would happen! Many people would easily just take their business elsewhere outside the state lines of Louisiana! That move would only created more problems that Louisiana can't take and doesn't need! Thank god CajunNation isn't the Governor, Louisiana would be in worse shape! It's people like you that keep Louisiana so far behind and stuck in the Dark Ages!

[Clutch0364]

_ All the irrelevant bullcrap you are speaking and these colleges will still remain opened with your wishful thinking! In my job field of criminal justice, i work with many graduates from Grambling, Southern and from an HBCU in Mississippi but i forgot the name but i can honestly say they have intelligence and know their job so i don't feel their Universities are hampering them educationally! It's not their fault this this state is in poor shape! There are so many other things that could get cut to free up money, closing Universities isn't the answer! Shut down these Universities and see what would happen! Many people would easily just take their business elsewhere outside the state lines of Louisiana! That move would only created more problems that Louisiana can't take and doesn't need! Thank god CajunNation isn't the Governor, Louisiana would be in worse shape! It's people like you that keep Louisiana so far behind and stuck in the Dark Ages! _

No, it's ignorant people like you that keep Louisiana in the Dark Ages! Have a nice day!

[CajunNation]

All the irrelevant bullcrap you are speaking and these colleges will still remain opened with your wishful thinking! In my job field of criminal justice, i work with many graduates from Grambling, Southern and from an HBCU in Mississippi but i forgot the name but i can honestly say they have intelligence and know their job so i don't feel their Universities are hampering them educationally! It's not their fault this this state is in poor shape! There are so many other things that could get cut to free up money, closing Universities isn't the answer! Shut down these Universities and see what would happen! Many people would easily just take their business elsewhere outside the state lines of Louisiana! That move would only created more problems that Louisiana can't take and doesn't need! Thank god CajunNation isn't the Governor, Louisiana would be in worse shape! It's people like you that keep Louisiana so far behind and stuck in the Dark Ages!

First of all, settle down.

I am not picking on the HBCU's in Louisiana. There is a need for Southern-BR, and they do a nice job. I'm being completely fair here. There are schools in each system of higher ed in this state that need to be shut down. Nobody gets spared my axe.

I AM picking on wasteful, irresponsible spending, and I'm sorry, but one of the worst things this state has done that has lead to our continual crisis of funding is to foster the idea that every city thats wants a university should have one.

Some of the schools I mentioned have had more than enough time to prove that there is a place for them. Some of them should never have opened in the first place.

Either way, the needs served by each of these schools could be met other places in this state for a lot less money.

Look. We are not the Federal government. We can't print money. We HAVE to live within our means in the smartest way possible.

Closing schools won't make people leave this state. They have been doing that in droves for the better part of 3 decades. In fact, closing some schools would be the first sign in a loong time that we just might be serious about fixing Louisiana.

[bballholic]

Bottomline: At the end of the day, there are far too many four year institutions in the state of Louisiana given its population. You obviously won't be able to please everyone, but some of these four year schools need to go.

[zephyr]

_ Do we have much in the way of options as long as what can be cut and what can't remain the same? I know we have a lot of colleges for our population, but what makes anyone think that cutting the number of colleges will free up more money for those which remain? It may sound like a reasonable thought process, but I wouldn't bet money on it or on getting anything passed which makes the $$$$$ go to education.

And they are "legendary" as schools both state wise and nationally. Anything can be done, but the blood loss by the one doing it would be severe. _

Please explain their "legendary" status please......

[Boomer]

_ All the irrelevant bullcrap you are speaking and these colleges will still remain opened with your wishful thinking! In my job field of criminal justice, i work with many graduates from Grambling, Southern and from an HBCU in Mississippi but i forgot the name but i can honestly say they have intelligence and know their job so i don't feel their Universities are hampering them educationally! It's not their fault this this state is in poor shape! There are so many other things that could get cut to free up money, closing Universities isn't the answer! Shut down these Universities and see what would happen! Many people would easily just take their business elsewhere outside the state lines of Louisiana! That move would only created more problems that Louisiana can't take and doesn't need! Thank god CajunNation isn't the Governor, Louisiana would be in worse shape! It's people like you that keep Louisiana so far behind and stuck in the Dark Ages! _ Question---How do these alumni compare to the alumni of our other Universities?????? Ergo you say that they would not have gotten a better education at our other state universities ---I think that post graduate tests prove that are in the lower part of test results!!!!

[4LSU]

_ Please explain their "legendary" status please...... _

How tough do you think it might have been a 100+ yrs ago in Louisiana to open a college whose principal mission was the education of black Americans? To keep that college open during the depression, two world wars, and the frustrations of the 60ies and 70ies? To a large segment of our population in Louisiana, I have to think both schools hold legendary status in their minds.

Hey, maybe I'm wrong, but that's where I am coming from with my comment you questioned.