Usable UL names

[CajunCanaille]

_ Interestingly, that is also a suggestion I made. Like the University of Oklahoma - OU, University of Colorado - CU, University of Nebraska (Lincoln) - NU, University of Kansas - KU, we could refer to ourselves Athletically as LU which would solve that problem. But, changing to Louisiana University would likey require an official name change, thereby leaving ULM as the only remaining UL university in the UL System which requires 2 universities to be UL. But, what if Southeastern decides to become UL Hammond or Northwestern becomes UL Nachitoches (is that spelled right)? _

Actually it's spelled Nachitrash.

Although the LU name sounds like the best thing I think using it would be a dificult transition. I'm not a huge fan of the single L but it is the easiest transition, it just wouldn't look very attractive. I'm for it if it gets the "Lafayette" tag off of our name.....athletically of course.

[dperrin]

We don't have to make any changes If we just promote LOUISIANA on everything and a L because as much as this guy whines we are not breaking any law.

[ShowDog]

_ Boy, you sure know how to do your research, don't you? First of all Southeastern's enrollment has just in the past decade or so exploded, due in large part to 2 major factors: first, the advent of selective admissions at schools such as LSU, UNO, & UL (Lafayette) pushed a number of students toward Hammond; and second, the population on the Northshore (especially St. Tammany & Tangipahoa parishes) has grown tremendously during the past decade. So SLU has just about caught up to us in enrollment. We have been in the 15-17k range for a long time, in part due to the implementation of said selective admissions.

Last I heard, LSU was in the upper 20's (close to 30k). Maybe in the past few years they've gotten back over 30k. So you're correct about us not being close to them. But, you are are off about the the other 3 - Ole Miss, Miss. State & Arkansas. Last I heard, we were bigger than all 3. I believe I recall that each of them was in the 10-15k range.

And who said anything about us saying we are a flagship? That is all coming from the critics. BTW, we didn't just "artificially" decide to call ourselves "University of Louisiana". In 1984, the state Board of Regents (predecessor of the UL System Board) officially changed our name to University of Louisiana (NO city tag). It didn't take long for the Huey Long crowd to get it overturned. _

We definitely have a larger student enrolment than Ole Miss. Miss. State is probably around 20K or a little over(largest in MS) and I hear ARK would be in between.

_ We don't have to make any changes If we just promote LOUISIANA on everything and a L because as much as this guy whines we are not breaking any law. _

If we would just start a winning tradition, it wouldn't matter what we were called. Ragin Cajuns is the best moniker we having going and we should exploit it to the utmost.

When I travel and mention UL people ask "you mean LSU? When I say Ragin Cajuns they say "yeah, the school in Lafayette". At least they know us by that name.

[CajunCanaille]

_ If we would just start a winning tradition, it wouldn't matter what we were called. Ragin Cajuns is the best moniker we having going and we should exploit it to the utmost.

When I travel and mention UL people ask "you mean LSU? When I say Ragin Cajuns they say "yeah, the school in Lafayette". At least they know us by that name. _

But unfortunately when people ask you what school you went to you can't say Ragin' Cajuns. I do agree that it is a great name and something we should definately take advantage of.

[CajunNation]

But unfortunately when people ask you what school you went to you can't say Ragin' Cajuns. I do agree that it is a great name and something we should definately take advantage of.

Exactly.


Look at any football schedule published today.

You don't see schools listed by their nicknames, do you?


Look at ours. Our first game isn't versus the Jaguars. It isn't even versus the Southern Jaguars.

We play Southern that day.

I've discussed this at length many times before on this board, but we have the marketing of our name completely backwards.

[CajunNation]

Found my rant from months ago:

There is nothing we could do that would forward our identity as UL more than puting UL on the helmets just like we have them on the baseball caps.

The Ragin Cajuns nickname is great, but we are obsessed with it, to the point that we have almost abandoned the marketing of our university name in athletics.

For example, look at Marshall. They have a big fat M on their helmets, and you have to be standing within 2 feet of a player to be able see the word HERD on their jerseys.

Their very popular slogan is "We Are Marshall".

They have a great nickname in Thundering Herd, but they understand that the actual name of your university is way more important than a nickname.

The main reason why there is so much confusion about who we are or what exactly is our name among the general public is because WE are more confused than them.

We have the marketing of our school athletically completely backwards.


It's all one big train wreck, and few people want to admit it.

[Turbine]

_ Louisiana State University 30,017
University of Arkansas 19,194
Mississippi State University 17,824
University of Mississippi 17,546
University of Louisiana at Lafayette 16,199
University of Southern Mississippi 15,919
University of Southeastern Louisiana 15,224
Rest not even close (yes I know our enrollment isn't close to y'alls)

Yes, calling yourself the mythical terms "UL" or "Louisiana" you are in fact referring to yourself as a "lead" or "main" campus, which is why this part of the law is open to interpretation...Any designation of or reference to a member institution as “flagship,” “lead,” “main,” or by other similar descriptors is prohibited. I wish we would stop being so vagina-fied and start using louisiana on our uniforms as well like we did years ago. _

UL's attendance was 15,729 in 1982 and took 15 years to creep to over 17,000 in 1997 and went static from there.

The schools you mention besides LSU are just catching up by a few years.

Fact is UL has been the 2nd largest public University in Louisiana since 1939. The campus has branched off 3 times and every time the new creation was spun into the LSU system.

[Hammer58]

_ I guess it depends upon the interpretation of the law. the law says you can't use anything referring to yourself as a lead, main, or flagship. That pretty much wipes out everything that doesn't include some sort of regional tag. Now if you can change your name to LU and Louisiana University I don't see anyone being upset with that. _

There was no reason for anyone to get upset in 1984 when we changed to UL. But you can bet the same folks (LSUA&MC, the brokebacks and you boys in Monroe) who got got upset when we changed from USL to UL in 1984 would howl just as loud if we changed to LU.

[Turbine]

_ I'm not saying that your school is not the second best school in this state (or that i do or don't care), or that ULM is or isn't better in any way. All I was doing is answering 1 of the 452 threads on why can't we call ourselves "UL" or "Louisiana" and why I think that it is silly to even try when you all know IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN, and you know that most of the schools in this system were created around the same time (and were certainly not a spin off of UL-Lafayette). _

Before 1900 there was Tech and UL ... both were to be feeder schools to LSU.

Tech was given the task in North Louisiana and UL was given the task from Houma to Lake Charles up to Alexandria.

Northwestern had a different task; create teachers.

It wasn't long before UL outgrew its initial role and the state had a choice to make for UL, either expand the main campus or create branch schools in the area.

[CajunNation]

Sometimes I hate this state!

Join the club.

We don't fix problems in this state like responsible people.

We pacify.


We don't conduct the state's business like mature adults.

We throw jealous temper tantrums like spoiled rotten 3 year olds.


We live in an idiocracy.

[ULwarhawksRULE]

FYI, they call you U.L.L and LA-Lafayette because they are all sent the same thing from the state...no matter what you decide you want to be called, when they see this it tells them all they need to know http://www.ulsystem.net/assets/docs/...e_policies.pdf

*NOTE this rules out Louisiana and/or UL because it is a reference as a flagship* Any designation of or reference to a member institution as
“flagship,” “lead,” “main,” or by other similar descriptors is prohibited...and check out III C where it says UL is prohibited in athletics as well, this is why we use ULM because we choose not to upset the people who fund our athletic program (as it does you guys)

[ULwarhawksRULE]

Well if you read it says your name must ALWAYS contain @geographic location...and your abbreviation must ALWAYS contain the letter of your geographic location. As far as the other post....

ULM has decided that we don't want to be called ULM so we have decided we want to be called the University of Tulane of Louisiana similar to Tulane Universivty. That is pretty much what you guys try to do. If you want go ahead and change your name to Nebraska University of Louisiana or State of Louisiana University....just because you think it doesn't mean its what people believe you to be.